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city won didn't they?? liven up a bit man.
For better or for worse (mainly for worse) those two bands had a major influence on generic guitar bands over the course of the decade. They have a lot to be hated for. And I like both those bands.
If the bands had either died (The Libertines) or split up (The Strokes). Difficult to retain the same feelings when they still linger, getting progressively shitter.
I'd find it impossible to decide.
This is a music board, why aren't they relevant?
get a stupid reply.
THEY'RE NOT RELEVANT BECAUSE ANYONE WITH A BRAIN GAVE UP ON THEM LIKE SIX YEARS AGO.
of a brief era in music at the beginning of this century. The Strokes still tend to get their dues whereas The Libertines generally do not, perhaps because they contained Pete Doherty within their membership. Thus, the question is posed: was The Libertines' debut in fact a better demonstration than The Strokes' of what that era was all about?
It's no more or less relevant than "Siamese Dream > Nevermind?" or "Exile On Main St > Abbey Road?" - the only difference is how fashionable it currently is to like those albums. So maybe not as many people on here will listen to Up the Bracket and This Is It for that reason (and few more won't because they're maybe not quite as good those other albums), but they're still just as good albums now as they were when they were released, and they're still just as worthy of whatever level of respect they merited at the time.
I just find that there's something totally ridiculous about these comparisons. And both acts involved in this debate have put some hard work into peddling absolute garbage in the latter half of this decade.
and has aged well, it still sounds great
I never really listened to Is this it at the time, so I can't comment on that
So much as the second Libertines album wasn't great, Up the Bracket is a classic.
stop being a bunch of bellcheeses
I think The Libertines past me by completly while I was listening to some techno, I didn't know they existed until they were in meltdown and almost split up. The Strokes are alright but everytime I heard a them I just thought about putting on The Stooges or something instead, which really got me into Raw Power so I'll thank them for that.
Doherty obviously had quite good lyrical talent and really believed in what he was saying on that album which makes it come across quite well to me.
Is This It is very average. I hate the Strokes, I know I'm a bore for repeatedly saying so, but they're the ultimate style over substance band.
I gave Up The Bracket a play yesterday afternoon. Probably the first time I've put The Libertines on in 4+ years. I agree that the album is certainly of its time and maybe it sounds a little dated but I was pleased to see that alot of the songs still resonate (Horror Show, Time For Heroes) and it still has a rawness I find appealing.
Is This It hasn't dated quite as well and is guilty of receiving WAY too much airplay around and just after its release. Hearing all the songs blasted out in your local pub or shopping mall reduces its impact whenever I decide to put it on.
For me I'd say Up The Bracket is the record I'm more like to return to again (albeit probably in another 4 years) rather than Is This It.