Poll If an album you want to listen to isn't on Spotify do you...
a) search last.fm/we7/deezer for it?
b) search hype machine or myspace for some tracks to hear the band
c) order the record from amazon or make a (mental) note to buy it next time you're in a store?
d) download it?
e) something else...?
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e) don't listen to it
Exactly ^ that.
I'd say "Spotify is shit"
then do nothing because I probably had it already and only went on Spotify in the first place so I could be justified in saying "Spotify is shit".
Do you know how much Sony paid for their 8.5% share of spotify?
well I'll tell you
don't
£2,500
and I'm fairly sure that the other three majors got similar sweet deals for their slices of the pie
like some kind of strange out-of-court settlement
who cares?
it's a great service.
I thought you valued independence?
(my figure was wrong by the way, Sony got a 5.8% share rather than 8.5%)
It's a great service for the 'consumer' and a great service for the labels that own a piece but it's a terrible deal for the artists
who cares about the artists ?
their mums
possibly
nah
mum would love to see their sons/daughters having real jobs...
tru dat
mind you
this sounds suspiciously like caring
I hope that was a joke!
What do you think ?
;)
a better or worse deal for artists than me downloading it from The Pirate Bay?
i can't afford to buy music right now. should I use spotify or pirate it?
you should find a better-paid job...
oh lyle
what ?
It's a solution...
"a better or worse deal for artists than me downloading it from The Pirate Bay?"
the same bad deal - spotify is actually arguably worse
"i can't afford to buy music right now. should I use spotify or pirate it?" - that's totally up to you
B or D
Though most of the time I do those before I check Spotify
a) then c)
f) move on to one of the other thousand trillion albums on spotify i want to listen to
i used to also use last fm but they've made it pretty much impossible to listen to albums now. great work, guys.
How?
they removed the player box from album pages
take this an example: http://www.last.fm/music/The+Cure/The+Head+on+the+Door
every track is there in full but there's no player box in the top right corner anymore.
you can still listen to it but you either have to play trackls via their individual pages or by adding them all to a playlist.
Why would I want to listen to Spotify?
I've got several hundred cds and several hundred vinyls. If I can't find something I want to listen to I think I've got a problem.
Not to mention online radio stations and podcasts.
"Why would I want to listen to Spotify?"
because there's loads of great music on there.
mmm yummy vinylS
Because there might be something you want to listen to
that you don't presently have. You stupid shit. Of course there are online radio stations etc, but you really aren't phrasing this in the sense of 'Is spotify of any use?' but rather 'Can I justify wilfully avoiding it just for the sake of it?'
plus
unless you're an anal retentive alphabetizer, it takes longer to find the cd than make a playlist of 10 albums you want to put on and leave on.
So you're saying there's no point in buying music then?
but what if you just want to listen to music
on your stereo ?
my flat's too small for it to matter
my iMac has great speakers.
get a bigger flat !
I would use it if I found it useful
but there's hardly any independent stuff on there.
there's loads
Jagjaguwar's entire catalogue is up there, as is everything on 4AD / Beggars / Matador, and loads of stuff on smaller labels will start to appear now that they've signed a deal with IODA.
d/e) I'd usually naughty naughty it to begin with
I would use it to listen to stuff before I buy stuff,
but half the time it's not on there. Myspace and Youtube are much more reliable for checking stuff out.
The only use I can see for it is if you don't actually buy/own any music of your own and want to listen to some.
Sorry for all the stuff! I haven't woken up yet.
God I wish you could edit posts on here sometimes...
i own about 1000 albums on CD
i currently have about 300 albums in my spotify library. combination of gaps in collections, random stuff that i'm intrigued by, things people have recommended to me and new releases that i can't afford to buy right now.
you = wrong.
^This
but in the form of an Amazon wishlist.
I do this,but I put them in my Discogs wantlist.
When I want to listen to an album
I just try to buy it...
buy it...really?
Strange concept;)
from HMV?
I know.
What a loser.
Could go to more gigs just for drinking lots of beers there, instead, like many people do...
Get over yourself
How ?
As Daniel said
Just listen to something else.
If I'm really desperate, probably a, then b
followed by eventually attempting to buy it for about 60p from amazon marketplace. Or I'll go listen to some other crap.
a then c
I'm too much of a retard to understand d
If I'm desperate to hear it i'll buy it
If it was a curiosity thing, I might check we7 etc or just come back in a couple of weeks.
Moaning about lack of stuff on Spotify seems a bit strange considering the amount of stuff you could listen to instead on there.
it wasn't a moan
i was thinking that the latest Grizzly Bear album isn't on there and whether that meant more people bought it or downloaded it. personally i think the internet killed the curiosity purchase, which is what so many labels rely upon.
"the internet killed the curiosity purchase"
quite true.
Back in the days, you were reading a review or hearing about a band, then bought a record of a band without ever listening to it.
Now... You check Spotify, Myspace or less legal means first...
I suppose your question is : if you can't listen to a band online in these days, will you rely on buying it now ? I would say probably not...
or
as per above, if you can't find it, does that mean you simply don't ever hear them? it makes me wonder whether all the major label involvement with push down the priorities of getting all music on spotify. Or rather, will focus on what is presented to the average consumer. I'm having a meeting with them soon about potential DiS involvement so this is all really interesting.
Majors probably won't see a problem
with seeing "all" music on spotify as long as it isn't promoted by the site and then not much listened to, because if spotify starts having less and less "indie" choice, a new site will appear having what spotify hasn't (small indie labels should regroup to have a streaming site of their own, IMHO).
But, like on Myspace, you can count to see bands on the front page to be "well" chosen...
Don't know how to classify the curiousity purchase
but it doesn't seem to have hurt overall sales given Grizzly Bear's remarkable sales in America (debut at #8 in the album charts - compare that to Yellow House). The band themselves stated that the leak and publicity had almost certainly benefitted sales, in that particular case.
D....then maybe C
I would download it, and if I really liked it, I would buy it.
If I didn't like it, it would be deleted a few weeks later.
D
Probably before checking spotify, because then I can have it on the move/when my internet is off.
e)
YouTube can be alright for hearing tracks of lesser known bands. did a scout around earlier and got a good taste of the fuck buttons album. cymbals eat guitars had/have their whole album on it.
If Spotify has changed my listening habits in any way
It's done the following.
1) I moved six months ago and one of the first things I was going to do was boot up my old PC and find the hundreds of albums I've borrowed and copied from friends, relatives (people from the internet) in the past decade of so. I still haven't because when ever I think to myself 'I haven't heard Kimono My House for a few years' if it's not been on my laptop or MP3 player I've ended up finding it on Spotify and inevitably picking it up for under a fiver at HMV, Zavvi RIP sale or Amazon.
2) When there's something like the Grizzly Bear album, which I haven't heard and as Sean rightly says isn't on there I end up moving on to the next album on my spreadsheet for 2009 to hear (don't laugh, I know I'm not the only one)and maybe that will be on there and maybe catch it on the next go round. Unlike 3 or 4 years ago I don't feel the need to have an opinion on every single album that people are talking about instantly. Back in those YSI days I'm sure many people had GBs of unzipped leaked albums on their cheaply bought external hard drives.
Looking through that spreadsheet I can see at least a dozen purchases that I've converted from initially listening to on Spotify. Any leak I've d/loaded has been something I've bought on release anyway. I still like the option to try before I buy but I'm not feeling the need to do it asap like I once did. I've bought about 30 albums this year, streamed only about 30 and I'm looking to buy another 10 of those when I can.
I dont use it
so I usualy buy music I want to hear, I'm not bothered about hearing the whole thing before I buy it most of the time. I've used myspace for whole albums a few times when they've been available and we7 once but I'm more likly to just skip thru it if its streaming on line just to get an idea of it then I'll buy it. I listen to radio alot for electronic stuff. I can see why people like sportify but I'm not that fussed about having it, I have music coming out of my ears as it is without being tempted by more.
spotify has some strange gaps in its albums lists
if i can't find an album and i'm desperate to hear it, i'll download it (buy it if i can't find it or just want a hard copy) and if not, just forget it.
If i'm being perfectly honest
I just download it straight away, if I like them enough, I go see them live. This probably makes me an awful person but it works for me.
I'd use Youtube and then maybe download it
Am I blind, or does Spotify not have a way to search by musical genre or alphabetically of every musician/band on there? I see 'artists you may like' and 'what's new'. I find the search shit.
b), usually hypem over myspace
and then c) will often follow, especially if it's cheap on marketplace
Youtube too come to think of it
Fuck you Spotify.
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