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What are peoples thoughts?
But that run of EP's, then Nowhere, then Going Blank Again is enough for Ride to take the win.
tough choice mind.
i think i saw their last ever uk gig, at PHOENIX fest 1996. they were all pretty rat arsed.
they both showed a lot of initial promise with early EPs/mini album, released a decent but underwhelming debut album and went rapidly downhill thereafter
on the Ride side there's Drive Blind, Vapour Trail and the Today Forever EP
on the Lush side there's Thoughtforms, the Mad Love EP and Sweetness and Light
but Miki and Emma were hot and fun while Mark Gardener looked like a trout so I think Lush just edge it on aesthetic grounds
But Lush are pretty good. Ride i feel are overrated.
though there are now too many variables in the formula to precisely position each act relative to the others on a single vector.
i do agree slowdive > ride and lush
from what iv heard i think lush are a little more warm sounding, but have found it harder to get hold of lush in record shops etc, so listened to Ride alot more
anyone know where lush were from? in the thames valley?
There were a lot of bands that were shoegaze or on the periphery.
I can think of 3 that were good, and none were 'proper' shoegaze (they were all so much more). the holy triumvirate, spacemen 3, mbv, the telescopes. 4 if you include the Boo Radley's for Ichabod and I. The 100% shoegaze outfits, namely moose, chapterhouse, slowdive, were dire. the more orthodox indie acts with shoegaze elements, lush, ride, were barely any better.
Loop were so derivative that lumping them in with slowdive in an insult to shoegaze. swervedriver were a confused scuzz band and deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Curve will no doubt be one of those bands that WildEye above would rate either as dire or barely any better, but I love 'em.
Between Ride and Lush, it's Ride by default: i.e. because I thought the early releases compiled on Gala were good enough (almost as good as the early EPs compiled on Ride's Smile) and the Black Spring EP was excellent (as good as Nowhere, if only for the reason that it doesn't have the latter's filler), but I can't comment much further since I bought the double 10" format of Spooky, and I haven't had a record player for about 15 years, meaning that I can't for the life of me remember what it was like!
got me a copy of Spooky, and so I can now confidently say that early Lush (all releases up to and including debut album, i.e. Spooky) beats early Ride (all releases up to and including debut album, i.e. Nowhere).
My guess is that following their respective debuts the situation is reversed. I can't be certain as with Lush I've not gone further than Spooky, but I'm reasonably confident with my estimation simply because Ride's Today Forever EP is so stunning that it's hard to imagine anything from the shoegaze scene beating it (though it's near enough equalled by the early Curve EPs). GBA is solid, too, and while Spooky is just about GBA's match, I can't help but think if Lush bettered Spooky, I would've heard about it...
Reading the above and obviously its all personal opinion but Slowdive and Chapterhouse don't really come close in terms of quality of output Lush's Mad Love ep alone shits all over anything Chapterhouse came up with. As for Curve, nah not for me. A few decent singles and thats about it.