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Please give me the job. I'm dead good and can write a bit. I also once got recognised by Kele off of Bloc Party and I thrive on being called a cunt by small children on the internet.
It COULD happen...?
Only if you put Lightyear on the front cover every month.
I can write, I'm aware of the commercial sensitivities of running a magazine in the 21st century and I introduced Courtney Love to K...oh, no, hang on, that wasn't me.
I'm putting my application together as we speak. I'm a nailed-on certainty.
who would run the country after the next election?
You win @ posting.
Reckon it'll start being good again now? I'm not talking the days of Nick Kent here, but an improvement must be on the cards, right?
seeings as he single handedly drove it into the ground, but I dunno I think too much damage may have been done
The ABC's were shwoing the NME as losing 20-odd% of its readers every quarter.
I think his decision to aim it at 16 year old Skins-obsessed scenesters certainly did the magazine no favours. As you said, it'll be interesting to see how much it can recover now
that someone else gave him. Ergo: it wasn't him, really, that drove it into the ground. Not defending the way it's gone (though it has got a lot better recently, probably because I've started writing for it) but the only way it'll change is if the people who had given McNicholas that job want it done differently.
If they want to carry on employing people with a marketing background, it'll stay the same. If they reverse it a bit and employ someone who enjoys music, it could do anything, really.
It was gut wrenching to see what happened to it under McNicholas, but ultimately i think he did actually delay the rag's inevitable demise.
The market is too fragmented and suffering from an exodus to online reading, and aiming it at a younger age group made total sense in that context. The question is just how long IPC wants to prop up the print version in order to support its online operation.
if anything he spread it much wider (obvs at a time of huge change over the past 7years, battling the internet, etc) and I think the bands the mag champions have reached more people and been more successful because of the magazines reach.
i think what Conor has done with the magazine and with bands like Libertines, White Stripes, Vines, etc is tried to recreate the 70s NME everyone wanted, rather than doing things more like Wired or Vanity Fair or even to some respects Newsweek (which has become analysis of news, rather than trying to break/compile stories)
i think it's easy for the kindsa people who visit DiS, goto ATP, etc who read the NME back when they were young, naive and enthusiastic to say the magazine isn't what it used to be and is rubbish. i doubt if it was to become more like Pitchfork anyone would read it (see also: Plan B - which don't get me wrong, was brilliant but not a 'business' which could pay the wages of the people and resources it would need to grow) and part of me wonders whether the vocal minority, who slag off the mag, are the kindsa people they'd want reading it.
then again, i think the fact that people want it to be better (or as good as they think it should be, rather than unattainably amazing and so niche that it's like a personalized magazine for a few people) is a good sign, i don't think many people here would be excited to hear of its demise but at the same time, i doubt many of you would be shocked if it happened either.
For that: respect.
...but after him Barack Obama came along and everyone's happy.
i don't think it's a minority. i bet half of the people who still buy it are compelled to buy it because of their completist tendencies.
Anyways, hopefully now it can start to re-gain some sort of credibility, as opposed to the 'too old for smash hits love skins ooh isn't ketamine cool' piss rag it had become under McNicholas' tenure as Editor.
the new editor might instigate a policy of more words and less pictures. Something that takes more than 5 minutes to read cover to cover might even be worth paying money for. Who knows.
I once mistakenly bought a copy of the NME to read on the train between Bangor and London.
I dont think it even got me as far as Rhyl. That and the fact the features were piss-weak at the best of times.
take up more space than the album reviews.
I will really miss the cack handed journalism like "what's your favourite drugs" and the blatant favouring of substance and hair products over style and talent, it's a tragic end to the days when all you had to do was buy a guitar and spend fuckloads on PR and get "famous"...
Not that I care anymore, but it was getting embarrassing.
...To edit Top Gear mag.
Earls for the job!
say, paul artrocker, diver, crablin and everett true as an outsider to have an Anchorman style rumble for the job? that would be fun.
Who would take it over, now that they run it as a "consumer brand"? Surely musical nous is the last thing required for the job...
He DOESN'T like PROOF reading.
"New bands,old bands, little bands, bands we love and bands we hate" no wonder no one buys it just based on the shitty advertising alone. It may be too far from being saved thanks to McFucknuts guiding hand.
"oh no, why Conor!?"
the only people who seem to be aware of him are the people who hate him, poor guy
I was going to say "thank fuck for that" since the NME is the only weekly (print) music magazine left. But tbh I think it's probably lost so much credibility with discerning music lovers that it'd have to do something pretty drastic. Anyway like someone said up there^^ is more to do with the whole enterprise - I'm blaming the Publisher and the Marketing/Adsales people.
Make the website worth reading. It is a shower of shite and people like totally like the internet or something
hamish macbain will get the job...
he did it via Twitter https://twitter.com/conormcnicholas
employ some writers who can write. not people who sit at home and blog or call into chat shows or watch BB. you know people who have something to say, not just something bitter and cynical but something that makes us inspired to go out and investigate. the nme 'brand' (hideous as that now sounds) would have been nothing without paul morley ian penman etc and pretentious though they undoubtedly were, i would rather have that than just a hundred pictures of a hundred blokes in drainpipe jeans.
currently 68,151. I wonder how many Top Gear does?
if it's a monthly publication
Not hugely above the circulations of either Sounds or Melody Maker when they folded.
Top Gear sells about 200,000.
the NME would have folded long ago, meaning then you'd all have been deprived of a magazine to moan about?
Good? I'm still with bringing back Melody Maker :D
He is deserting the sinking ship. Anyone with any brains knows to find a new job before your current one becomes redundant.
NME's content, and readership/circulation, is the subject of a lot of scrutiny. Conor's tactic was to steer it in the direction of mainstream indie, slash the word count, and put lots of pretty pictures and gossip inside. He won awards for that shit. But it stopped being a serious music mag as a result. I was pretty sad about it. NME used to be pretty great. Or maybe I was just younger. WHo knows.
they were trying to be sarcastic but on 6music they basically said 'no reason was given for the resignation altho it is understood that McNicholas is to be the editor of Top Gear which has a circulation of 200,000 readers whilst the NME has a circulation of only 48,000...' I quite like reading the NME altho the features are invariably too short and never develop into enough detail.
Not a joke, no. Inevitable really. He did an outstanding job from a muilti-media progression point of view. The content wasn't what most of us wanted to read, and I'm glad he's gone because of that, but there's no denying the NME "brand" has grown massively because of him.
Just a wanker in search of pocket money. He ripped a good few hundred out of me before I came to my senses...
I just had to run out on The Low Anthem to get batteries for my dictaphone. I r professional.
(the batteries were fine, turns out the things was broken, so I'm more unlucky than stupid.)
...the last remaining two music weeklies are editorless at the moment? THE APOCALYPSE IS NIGH.
IT'S THE ONLY SAFE PLACE LEFT
berating that weeks edition as 'shit' and 'having no content'. The very fact people get this riled about the magazine shows it has a future. All print media is coming to terms with digital 'revolution' (for want of a better word)and NME is no different.
I read NME every week and have done since I was about 14, it's an important part of the music scene in this country and whilst they might be struggling at the moment I can't imagine a time when it's not around in one form or another. Finding a balance between covering acts like Kasabian, Oasis, The Enemy and then TV on The Radio, Deerhunter and No Age is never going to be easy and a lot of people on here over exaggerate the appeal and audience size of the latter. Ultimately a magazine lives and dies on the amount it sells and I'm sure alienating a few thousand people who can get a far better service on DiS and Pitchfork in order to please thousands of younger people who like Mighty Boosh and Green Day is not a hard decision to make.
Recently NME has reviewed ATP, Primavera, feature on Shellac, Fucked Up were on the cover and there was an interview with Future of the Left as well as a 2 page spread on Django Django. I think that's pretty good going really. Editing the magazine must be a thankless task at times.
that our pictures of Oasis live are likely to be in the top 20 most read things on the site this year, beaten only by a few indier-than-thou names like Decemberists popping up above them. things wot are popular are still popular, even within the realms of DiS.
the key is offering a balance. how does anyone get an Oasis fan to listen to Ryan Adams, even if he goes out on tour with them and covers Wonderwall, it's still an impossible task. the core function most music media can hope for is to encourage people to spread their taste and wander deeper into discovering music. that doesn't happen to shoving noisy tuneless bands in their face.
i think a lot of people here often forget how small a lot of bands are. even bands like Sonic Youth and Animal Collective struggle to sell 20k, let alone 50,000 records.
Putting Kasabian on the cover will lure large groups to buy the magazine but then inside there is a interview with Grizzly Bear or a feature on Neu! (that's from the copy I have in front of me)and that's important in raising the profile of acts like that. A magazine can only lead the horse to the water but as long as it is trying then, for me, it's fulfilling the remit.
SEAN FOR EDITOR!!
for better times, but just like the charts, top of the pops and viz magazine, was it ever really that good?
I don't mean "Top Gear? Woooh, K!"
"Woooh K" was, coincidentally, one of Lenny Henry's old catchphrases.
and have been buying NME for some time, about 3 years or something. it used to be exciting because i would find out about new bands with it and then really get into them quickly, with the help of zane lowe too i guess... now though, with the internet, i have already listened to/downloaded/judged most of the artists featured and so a lot of it becomes irrelevant. unfortunately as the internet has grown, NME's importance has waned, at least for me, and the sympathetic posts on here have a point, they have to go for readership - being consistently outsold by Kerrang! must be hard to take, and if the answer to that is to keep putting oasis enemy kasabian et al on the cover then its hardly surprising thats what theyve done. i may have started to lose interest as ive got older as has been suggested and to be fair i have become adept at nicking one from my local newsagent so i may feel less cheesed off at the price increases and revamps bringing less for the money, but i for one hope it can pull itself out of its shiny arse and just focus on more interesting, better writing in general. the news sections are pretty needless when we can easily use nme.com (aside from the multitude of better websites on offer)...and the reviews are becoming increasingly arbitrary - with bands being hyped and hyped and then said to disappoint with their album, under massive pressure that they can never live up to.
they need better writers and better ideas which can make us think rather than picking bands to champion and turning the blinkers on to any other opininon. also, the letters are a riot.
then NME isn't aimed at you. Get over it.
whoever edits Stool Pigeon. Brilliant paper.
Calling All Doves Fans
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Indie trio, Doves, will be hoping that it’s not a case of history repeating itself when they headline the John Peel stage at Glastonbury this weekend.
The full interview with Doves will be available to watch at http://channelbee.com/move/programmes/stories#3189
thanks greg from media agency cake, but....err, what does this have to do with conor? hang on, do channel bee have footage of conor quitting the nme as well???
what, this lot??
... the NME in Oct/Nov '07. it was quite a wrench, had been reading it since I was 14 (when it was still a paper), and had only missed one issue during that time.
IF, and it's a big if, they can get their act together, I might be tempted to return. As many have said above, less pictures and more content, please. And fuck off with the Skins bullshit (I don't mind it as a programme, but it has no place in a music magazine). Having said that, it was £1.30 when I started buying it, God knows what a habit would cost me now...
I do agree with CiderEagle above, The Stool Pigeon is fantastic, not sure however that I would want its editor to leave for the 'Indie Heat'.
but in doing so he destroyed what it was, so really i'd rather he hadn't
it was £2.70 the last time I bought it, and like I say, that was over a year and a half ago.
he gave covers to Fucked Up and Crystal Castles. Sure there may be a few too many Oasis covers but who cares?
the standard of the magazine, the articles, the bands they covered, plumetted as soon as he took over, he took a once respected publication a gateway to good new music and turned it into a complete joke, there may have been a few good bits here and there but those were the exception
The final nail in the coffin of landfill indie. Him and Zane Lowe have a lot to answer fcr, and can shove their haircut-over-depth ethos up their respective posteriors.
The excruciating days of 2005 seem an eternity ago. I presume he diagnosed a sinking ship. For a while it was the bible of freshers going through the shallowest of indie phases. Will it stop being the indie 'Heat' now?
of fucking course
this is because someone on twitter said 'when's your resignation coming'
or maybe it was in the pipeline for a while
I'd ask for the job but everyone remembers what happens when Smash Hits got their final, female editor
PS I LOVE YOU CONOR
when Scorpion by Eve got 10/10
Don't they really change the way you look at things, those multi-platform brands?
Also, GREAT STEAMING CHRIST.
I stopped reading the NME during Steve Sutherland's editorship - pretty much back when they switched from news print and turned into a crap version of Smash Hits without the jokes. Don't think McNicholas did any worse, but he certainly didn't do any better.
It needs a complete relaunch with MUSIC at the forefront - but I can't see it limping on any further than its 60th anniversary.
Sorry NME turned into a pile of steaming horse shit under Connor McFuckNut. Circulation noise dived - the man is a moron in terms of arse licking his fave bands and reducing a formerly good music publication into the retarded print version of Skins. How the fuck did he land the Top Gear job and what does he know about cars and are the BBC suicidal??? Maybe Top Gear wants to become the motoring version of Skins? I second the vote for Crablin and Everett Ultra Unamusing Wank Fuck True to duke it out for the NME job.
it's about men shouting and blowing things up.
First issue will have a free C90 tape full of super lo-fi noise pop, interviews with Mike Sniper, R. Stevie Moore, Jad Fair, and Morrissey. Release reviews of DC Snipers, Little Girls, Smith Westerns and Blessure Grave. Live reviews of Drunkdriver, Ducktails and Former Ghosts. Specials on Joe Meek, and Mort Garson. It will be the "INDIER THAN THOU" special, and it would fold within 2 months, BUT WHAT A WAY TO GO!!!!!
what george lamb is to radio...... in the words of paul calf "fooking shiiite!"
good riddance to bad rubbish, take your shoreditch idiot mentality and shove it up your arse.
i doubt the paper will improve though.
will fold. The brand name alone will keep it afloat.
but in recent months there has been a noticable shift away from the landfill indie that the magazine seemed to become a byword for.
If you get past the cover or opening news/gossip pages then the bands covered are pretty much the same as on DiS. From memory - they've covered recent ATPs comprehensively and gave Shallac a three page feature, the Pains of Being Pure at Heart a double spread...the reviews this week include Sleep and The Paperchase amongst other less than mainstream fair.
And for those who complain about the writers...it's full of names familiar to DiS, Plan B, The Quietus etc - there's a lot of good writing in there. A shame there simply isn't more writing and less flash graphic spreads or promotions.
be it an interview, feature, review or something. But it happens too infrequently.
And I haven't bought it since they stitched up Moz some 18 months ago. I remember reading that interview thinking it was some really shonky journalism, and a total hatchet job, because they needed a big story, and they could spin it that way. It reeked of desperation.
I still use NME.com as my primary source of music news though. Their online operation is pretty decent. Certainly, between there and here, my tastes are pretty well covered.
For what it's worth, I think McNicholas well and truly changed the direction of the NME (for worse, in my point of view), but it probably needed to be done to appease the marketing people. They needed to bring in a new audience.
...from the same Twitter account:
SAD NEWS: Steven Wells, one of the greatest NME writers of all time, died on Tuesday. The man was a genius. http://bit.ly/yOwg