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Is pretty much a masterpiece and pisses all over nevermind!!!
That is all!!
not their best collection of songs though in my opinion - that's Nevermind. But Nevermind is ruined by horrible, dated production.
disagree, In utero is nearly like story being told and is much more of a completed piece than nevermind!! To me nevermind sounds to much like just a bunch of songs thrown together! In utero is raw and straight from the heart!!
the! fuck! is! wrong! with! your! keyboard! you! spaz!!
In Utero just sounds like he couldn't be arsed making songs anymore. Just played guitar and screamed a load of shit over it.
and 'rocks' isn't a word i bandy about often.
pisses oter any other Nirvana album.
Nevermind was over produced, In Utero is a damaged masterpiece (after Geffen destroyed the Albini original...)
it is mainly albinis mix, they just brought someone else in to master it which isnt unusual, the only songs that were remixed were heart shape box and all apologies, i've heard the albini version of all apolgies (think it is on youtube) and it is lacking something that makes the final version special
Yup, they're both up on YouTube:
All Apologies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu0rYx2wKX8
Heart Shaped Box http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcfoNfWaHSU
And you're right—they're not that different really. I can see why they changed them though: the guitar does rather overpower the vox and bass on the original mixes.
about 8 years ago I picked up a vinyl bootleg of the 'outcuts and albini demos' for the In Utero Sessions. As much as I loved In Utero anyway from the day it was released, this 'other version' pissed all over it. More noise, sounds, longer versions and you could kind of feel the Steve Albini / SST Records aspect to it. Shame its not on CD or out there to pinch offline. Well I could never find it anyway...
Oh and In Utero is a much more superior record. Butch Vig can go swim.
I think. I have bootlegs of alternate/session versions of Bleach, Nevermind and In Utero on various coloured vinyls, all bought off of Camden market!
but you need cut some guff to make it a masterpiece. francis farmer and gallons of rumbling for a start.
still one of my fav albums OAT (of all time)
One of my favourite Nirvana tracks as it goes.
it's just brutal.
but I agree.
It defines them I think, IU. Would of been brilliant to here the next step though.
was really Unplugged. But studio output-wise, it could have gone two ways, in my opinion. Either it would have followed thepath from Bleach to In Utero, thus making it pretty terrible or probably. OR to break away from the mainstream success, Kurt would have written a blues album in honour of Leadbelly, Guthrie and such like, while the other two duly went along with it.
Nevermind ifs and buts anyway, it ended a left behind an amazing legacy and spawned an amazing first album by Foo Fighters (which Dave Grohl had been working before Kurt's death, let's not forget) which they unfortunately never quite matched and have become the Dave-Grohl-has-his-microphone-turned-up-too-loud-live-because-he's-a-fucking-rockstar band.
Better to burnout to fade away, of course. (Someone had to say it)
was terrible in that post. Missed words all over the shop.
and I think he meant it.
...but as for studio output it's pretty much always been In Utero for me. It's a darker, meaner album, and perhaps less accessible than Nevermind but for me it has most of my favourite Nirvana tunes.
I don't think it pisses all over Nevermind though - that would seem to imply a huge difference in quality and I'm not sure I'd agree with that.
tourettes is my favourite song to headbang and grit my teeth to
i agree that in utero is better than nevermind. i used to proper love nevermind but in utero is the one i go back to if i feel like nirvana. that or incestide...
eric roche's cover of teen spirit, rest his soul.
Although some of my favourite tracks are on In Utero & Nevermind, i think that Bleach is my favourite album overall. I think it's the Melvins influence.
Not by the standards of Sunn O))), Om etc, but by it's contemporaries at the time, it's fucking crushing. Down-tuned, fuzzy, dark lyrics, driving basslines.
Bleach is the one, really.
although their pop songs really are brilliant, bleach is just awesome
because it has On A Plain on it. End of thread.
I just won't.
Its way too fast and energetic for them. I'd say if anything Nirvana did inspired them it would be Heart Shaped Box from In Utero. Though its still a great song.
and what about Pearl Jam? They were pretty big too and their music was far worse...
maybe. think there is abit in the guy from galaxie 500/luna 's autobiography about how nirvanas success made things worse for underground music (but he is quite the curmudgeon). But they also influenced good bands and were a gateway band to loads of good stuff, anyone who really cared about them would learn about their real influence most of which were really obscure
It would be silly let the affect they had influence your opinion of their music
they get alot of credit for being so experimental but really they took what many had been doing in the no wave scene and made it accessible, then they become A and R men for geffen, basically cool hunters (I know im being stupid now) and surely you like most people got into sonic youth through nirvana?
they covered The Vaselines, The Meat Puppets, Leadbelly, Devo...e.t.c.
My point was that Nirvana kept in touch with their influences. Didn't they help Jesus Lizard by releasing that split single with them?
well-structured songs with lots of hooks and strong melodies. The horror!
3. In Utero
5. Sliver: Best of the Box
6. Muddy Banks
Nervermind is always gonna be divisive, but at a push, I'd slip it in just above Bleach.
There was eight.
It had demo tracks and other shizzle.
The others were largely live cuts and other stuff of only marginal interest.