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yes it is
without a doubt
so I think I agree. Definitely.
i find unhappy birthday and i won't share you totally unlistenable. some of their best songs are on it though. as a complete album it's got to be the debut or queen is dead.
you could be right.. that throws my 'without a doubt' comment into question..
I was drunk last night hence my 'definitely'... but then I go through phases... I think they're all brilliant to be honest!
What you on about?! I Won't Share You is beautiful! Not their best album though. Too much filler like Death At One's Elbow & Unhappy Birthday. It's their best produced album mind you
Louder Than Bombs > Strangeways > Queen is Dead > Hatful of Hollow > The Smiths > Meat is Murder
a couple of the tracks - unhappy birthday, death at one's elbow - are dreadful, and the album is self-parodic in places. you're wrong and you know you are. it's probably their weakest album
it's something that makes them fucking brilliant.
it was the first time where the themes they kept returning to sounded a bit jaded
Meat is Murder is my fave, though i'm definately in a minority here. This only happened about a year or so ago, even though I bought my first Smiths album in 1985 (Hatful) You can't count any of the comps in my opinion.
about meat is murder. it's got the greatest variation of styles and the entire band is on fire
has well I wonder, nowhere fast, and that joke isn't funny anymore, so wins
Meat is Murder for me
I reckon it's my favourite. Partly because it's not been as over-saturated as the others, so it still sounds relatively fresh to me (as opposed to the Queen is Dead, which I love dearly but have heard it about a million billion times).
The reason is this - although in Death At One's Elbow and Unhappy Birthday, you have two of the weaker songs in their cannon, the album has a coherent flow the same as all their albums, but with the twist of it sounding like a bit of a rollercoaster, a bit of a last gasp. I don't know if that's influenced by the circumstances of its making, but it genuinely does sound like the final document. Like how musical and lyrical loose ends are tied - 'Stop Me If You've...' sounds like the last word on the upbeat, jangly Smiths songs that started with the first single, 'Death At One's....' is the rockabilly pastiche taken to its logical extreme, 'I Won't Share You' sounds like the archetypal Mozza unrequited love song (complete with the Marr connotations) and so on. But that's my view, anyhow.
It would be my least favourite actually, The Queen Is Dead would be my pick.
Best Smiths album....... Great sound and totally tragic all the way through.......
Did anyone else see the Rough Trade doc on BBC4? So good! Loved that bit from TOTP with the gormless Nicey presenter who had "I love the Smiths" written on his chest. Oh dear.
there was some good stuff on the programme before it as well, Rough Trade at the BBC. The clip of the Violent Femmes singing Country Death Song made me want to investigate them some more. I also want to gen up on Ivor Cutler as well, any recommendations where to start with either of these?
I think as a complete piece of work it holds together better than anything else, I mean I adore all of their albums but Meat Is Murder tops it. Queen Is Dead comes a close second but what is Frankly, Mr Shankly all about. I never got that.
ps: Meat Is Murder is the weakest probably? But it does have some of the best songs so who knows? Actually maybe there ISN'T A WEAKEST. Meat Is Murder has some highs but some lows... anyway the first one is definitely the best regardless because its all so wonderful.
but the second half lets it down.
wins by a pinch
works best as an album ... side one of The Queen Is Dead is unbeatable but side two lets it down ... Strangeways is very patchy, the first album suffers from the terrible production and compilations don't count obviously
I'm gonna be controversial and go for Rank ha ha ha ahar