"Good" "emo".
I stumbled across Deja Entendu by Brand New the other week thanks to my flatmate, and have become quite taken with it. What other albums are in a similar vein that I should hunt down and check out?
PS: Today I listened to Under the Cork Tree by Fall Out Boy for the first time today, and also found myself enjoying it. Make of that what you will.
(I've taken a slightly deconstructionalist view and decided that since all signifying words are subjective, and the two words of the thread title doubly so, it was was safer to use quotation marks.)
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Deja Entendu is king
Though I would also heartily recommend New Medicines by Dead Poetic, Chasing Safety by Underoath, the first Taking Back Sunday album. Oh and Moneen - The Theory of Harmonial Value. I used to be well in to "emo", these are the ones that still sound good now. Saves the Day and Alexisonfire too.
I have At Your Funeral by Saves the Day on an old Kerrang! compilation.
That CD sums up a lot of teenage memories.
Saves the Day are awesome.
You should check out Stay What You Are and In Reverie if you haven't already. I don't really like their later stuff though. To me they lost their unique sound... :(
I also seem to remember there was a thread on a very similar topic a while back...
Don't know if anyone has a link...
.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4148315
More "old style" emo than brand new or fob. Some amazing stuff in there though.
Common Existence
the new Thursday album is something everyone interested in this thread should check out
Better than War all the Time?
I kinda gave up on them after the last one.
it's more consistent and probably better overall
but it's high points aren't as high
AGREED
Favourite record this year so far
Fall Out Boy
are amazing.
Anyway....good emo = a sizable proportion of my record collection.
The following bands are essential
The Get Up Kids
Knapsack
Sunny Day Real Estate
Saves The Day
Braid
Hey Mercedes
Far
The Promise Ring
I could go on and on....
Only good Emo is a dead Emo
Them's fighting words.
The only good emo is old screamo emo
Why?
Deals with some of the issues Emo does. But sounds a whole lot better.
isn't that missing the point though?
i mean, seriously. its a musical style. emo deals with the same issues that most western popular music does.
mineral - end serenading
YES
american football - american football (maybe emo, whatevs)
jimmy eat world - clarity
hmmm, Are Jimmy Eat World
strictly Emo? Emo conjures up bands like Panic At The Disco, My Chemical Romance, Good Charlotte and Paramore.
God yeah.
But then again, I'm one of those oldies that remembers when Emo meant Emotional Hardcore, rather than kiddy pop-punk in black hoodies.
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/3224257?greatest-hits
And here:
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4148315
yeah actually that jogs my memory
funny that the toot of the term "emo" - weird how its now subverted to mean crappy pop goth-lite MTV punk for teens. Dont get me wrong i think Fall Out Boy are alright and I love Jimmy Eat World. I am reserving the bile for MCR and their ilk.
JEW
are like 2nd wave emo, PATD and MCR and perhaps Paramore are 3rd wave
http://fourfa.com/
I could've done with that
when I was writing my emo zine, I hardly touched on that 1st wave stuff.
if you can find it on a blog or whatever
the Indian Summer discography is fantastic
it's like Fugazi crossed with Rites of Spring in a howling emocore way or something like that.
Kolya are relatively new (but still broken up) and they're amazing as well if you're looking for emo thats something other than great poppunk with a heart (like getupkids,jew etc)
I kind of
think of And You Will Know us by the Trail of Dead as a little bit emo, but good emo.
you want big melodies with your emo, try these:
Angel Youth by Last Days Of April
Very Emergency by The Promise Ring
and another "Yes!" for Clarity by Jimmy Eat World
Christie Front Drive are very nice too. How about that.
some good middle era/ later stuff
cap'n jazz - oh messy life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83BRULUXqlI
no knife - minus one
http://open.spotify.com/track/2PaQbNTustRU2XT6FqR4KS
penfold - human drama
http://www.last.fm/music/Penfold/_/Human+Drama
appleseed cast - innocent vigilant ordinary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ajUI0bmXcs
mineral - gloria (live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p9hCmFuu-8
last days of april - aspirins and alcohol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJpb87nXYJ0
american football - i'll see you when we're both not so emotional
http://open.spotify.com/track/1pKziOaiDCnrgMOqzQMtu2
taking back sunday - great romances of the twentieth century
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9F7ZgVwI3M
the early november - i want to hear you sad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKQvzLxPQg
something corporate - i woke up in a car
http://open.spotify.com/track/0KEqaz3NVXcB182yewKh8f
also all of brand new's albums are excellent and you should listen to them, and anything by jimmy eat world or promise ring as well.
you should swap something corporate for like
the movielife or someone like that
ah yeah i forgot the movielife
something corporate sneaked in for nostalgia purposes
but weren't they basically an teen movie soundtrack toploader?
'Constantine'
made me want to eat my own head.
Domestica by Cursive
Here's The Martyr from that, in anime goodness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-0ulkJCIxY
The Ugly Organist by Crusive
Here's A Gentleman Caller from that, sans animé
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW6GJIdznVM
*Cursive
obvs
Five highly recommended albums after Deja Entendu:
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
The Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About
Cursive - The Ugly Organ
No Knife - Riot for Romance!
and for fun, pure high-school naivety, Hot Rod Circuit's 'Sorry About Tomorrow'
No Knife
Are wicked. I love the instrumental song; May I Call You Doll
I Hate Myself - ten songs
This is the kind of thing that warrants a Spotify playlist.
i was going to
but spotify is a black hole for emo bands, there are hardly any on there.
cursive
rites of spring
cap'n jazz
heatmiser
^
This is a good list.
I played the Rites of Spring album to death as a teenager.
Renee Heartfelt
www.myspace.com/reneeheartfelt
Memorial (new band by the vocalist from RH)
www.myspace.com/memorialband
welcome to emo!
I'd recommend the following 5 albums, to start with:
The Get Up Kids - Something To Write Home About
Braid - Frame And Canvas
The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good
Texas Is The Reason - Do You Know Who You Are?
Jawbreaker - Dear You
But pretty much everything people have said in this thread is good stuff.
jawbreaker
is incredible. highly recommend this album.
Jawbreaker - '24hr Revenge Therapy'
is better than 'Dear You'
if its modern emo
i can kinda see all the fuss about the gaslight anthem, they may be a bit 'stadium' esque, but they certainly stand above the majority of this sort of music at the moment.
and yea, sunny day real estate, american football and pretty much what everyone else said above, try some fugazi if you feel like branching out into the roots so to speak
gaslight anthem aren't emo
they're just ripping off stuff like Against Me!
If you liked Deja Entendu
get Brand New's The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me, it is magnificent. They've got a new record coming this summer too. Good stuff.
Also heartily reccomend The Ugly Organ by Cursive (all their stuff is great too though, but I'd suggest starting with this one).
Lots of people rave about the first Taking Back Sunday album, but I find it a bit wet (stupid complaint to make about emo, I know. I think it's the production) and prefer the third one- Louder Now. It's more 'rock', and I'm down with that. TBS and Brand New have sharing band members history plus emo falling outs, so if you like one there's a good chance you'll like the other.
For Fall Out Boy stuuf, Take This To Your Grave is a well good record, and if you like bands like them I'd reccomend checking out Attack Attack! (the welsh one, not the american screamo) and Kids in Glass Houses if you haven't already. There are basically millions of bands who sound like Fall Out Boy these days, but those two are both really good.
If you don't mind incredibly cheesy commercial emo, lots of the Fueled By Ramen bands will supply you with a sugary fix.
Of course, you should really check out all the second wave / credible emo bands in this thread first, but I don't think you really want to :)
some of these are more pop punk than emo, but it seems you like that anyway...
Say Anything - ...Is A Real Boy - please just listen to this record
Two Tongues - Two Tongues - this features members of Say anything and Save The Day, and although it isn't ground breaking is a good fun listen, and the way the singers bounce off each other is great.
Forgive Durden - Wonderland - like fallout boy and Say Anything, in a good way
this thread is a bit weak.
Moss Icon, Heroin, Indian Summer, Rites of Spring, One Last Wish, Gray Matter, Lovesick, Boilermaker, Twelve Hour Turn, I Hate Myself, Braid, Cap'n Jazz, the Promise Ring, Mineral, Embrace, Christie Front Drive, the Van Pelt, Boy's Life, Beefeater, Antioch Arrow, Bells on Trike, Mohinder, September etc etc etc.
they aren't pop punk!
;)
yeah, i obviously didn't realise that if you were going to post in this thread
it had to be a piss-poor joke of a suggestion.
well aren't you the little musical fascist!
And as far as emo goes
He's totally spot on
but it still doesn't give him the right to criticise every other post.
especially as the original post was after stuff like brand new and fallout boy, which even though i'm sure based on those that i've bothered listening to from that list all of those are great bands, doesn't make them sound anything like what the tread wanted. most of them are original emo-core style bands.
hahaha
l.o.l.
Some good choices
but boo to the holier than thou attitude
it was all a bit safety-wink, but nevermind.
if he'd asked for first gen emo recommendations
those would have been great.
he didn't though.
emo is emo. brand new are not.
soz love.
It isn't though.
Emo is whatever the majority of people decides it is.
racetraitor
pete wentz was in them before he started fallout boy. they're on spoity. i think they're technically power violence but they're still worth listening to.
try still life, indian summer, saetia, braid, rites of spring etc.
Finch
Both albums, amazing.
*half the first album
but definitey the whole second album
but definitey the whole second album
but definitey the whole second album
but definitey the whole second album
Idiot
i have the first album
possibly the most important album in my musical life
is the second one as good ? is it heavier ? i have one song off it - Brother Bleed Brother, is that a good example of the album ? cos it's great
it's on Spotify
sorted
also, i should say again
THE FIRST FINCH ALBUM IS SO SO GOOD
the ep from last year is really good too
Circa Survive - Juturna
is ace
Yeah, What It Is To Burn is probably the most important album in my musical life too!
Or maybe The Bends, I dunno, anyway yeah, second album is much better.
Emo's alla bit silly isn't it?
hate it when you hear a band and it's liek...hmmm, this is passable then that retarded exactlythesame shouting WUUOOOOAAAAAH voice comes in and it's like ARGH STEALTH EMO!!!
i've got a bone ting pick with you >:-|
:D
Aww, it's been ages since we had one of these threads
Let's all argue about subgenres!
well...
it really depends on the time. back in the early 90s, bands such as mind over matter, four walls falling or shudder to think we called called emo core... that's 'good' emo for me. and boy set fire.
whatever happened to marlvrum?
SUCH HOLIDAYS IN THE SUUUUUUUUUUUN DON'T COME WITHOUT SACRIFIIIIIIICES
You know it makes more sense.
<3
I LIKE THE WAY YOU CRY!
BREAK MY HEART AND BREAK MY HANDS AND LET MEEEEEEEEE DOWN
...
Rites of Spring
Cursive
Fighting With Wire
The Lucida Console
I'm forgetting loads, I know.
Then the mathy stuff like Tubelord, Cap'n Jazz, Marvins Revolt, Themroaringtwenties, Fall of Troy, Algernon Cadwallader and This Town Needs Guns.
the lucida console?!
bit of an odd one to throw in with rites of spring!
fighting with wire are unmitigated shit
never again mention them in the same breath as ros or cursive,
cheers.
You're so amazingly dismissive and cool and stuff,
cheers.
Fighting With Wire *are* fucking awful though
The Get Up Kids - Something To Write Home About
Doesn't get much better than that.
WORD
Rival schools is always my answer to this question,
United By Fate! Lyrics written on bits of paper and then scrunched up a bit, and then photographed for the sleeves! Used for Glue! Travel by Telephone! The Switch! Good Times!
Rival Schools
I've always wondered but never been quite willing to except them as an emo band. Are they an emo band?
Fucking cracking album though.
I thought they were post-something or another
Spy vs Spy
I was listening to Christie Front Drive, they're wonderfully cheesy...
Yeah, good luck
I like some Cursive records, that's about it. Capt'n Jazz, Sunny Day etc - all those "classic" emo albums - are really just mediocre in the grand scheme of...
you should check out the 80s and 90s punk emocore stuff
instead of the indiemo bands. it's a lot more exciting.
i can't believe you just called cap'n jazz
mediocre.
(you're right about sunny day..)
Without reading any of the above best emo band(s) are
Rites Of Spring
Any Tim Kinsella band.
...
circa survive
emarosa
onelinedrawing
Has anyone mentioned Small Brown Bike?
They have an album called The Riverbed
QUICKSAND...
...are they "emo"? also;
is FARAQUET emo? or math-emo?
bear vs shark (post-hardcore is emo)
deja entendu is good (not as whiney as their first)
mewithoutyou (if you can get past all the god stuff, pretty nice shit)
that first story of the year record
thrice is so-so
avoid at all costs:
fall out boy
hawthorne heights
any cookie monster sing-scream shit like atreyu
Did you read the original post?
explicitly stating that he liked Fall Out Boy and wanted to hear things similar to that? Jeezo, pay attention!
Elliott
Not seen anyone here mention them, but they were one of the best of the original Emotional Hardcore era emo bands, back when the look was all skinny T's, thick glasses and intensity. They had a fantastic wall of sound thing going on and were easily one of the best bands I've ever seen live.
I thoroughly recommend seeking out the False Cathedrals album if you can.
Here's a taster from Youtube:
Calm Americans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-S-lSTyN3k
i bought an elliot record a couple of weeks ago
it's called 'us songs.' i don't rate it too highly. it's quite similar to sunny day real estate.
They were around at the same time
so it's not entirely surprising. Sunny Day Real Estate obviously had more success, though, and jumped ship at the end of the century before emo became the bizarre bastard child it is today. Smart move. Anyway, I don't know much about U.S. Songs but False Cathedrals is definitely a winner in my book.
I'll second (third? fiftieth?) the Braid and Cap'n Jazz recs
along with The Devil And God by Brand New.
Bridges With Burning by Kind Of Like Spitting falls into a similar camp for me, although I suppose they're not strictly associated with the genre. Anything by Thursday. Infinity Land by Biffy Clyro I reckon works in this grouping as well. False Cathederals by Elliot is lovely too.
Oh, and Rites Of Spring and Embrace and Quicksand and so on are all essential, but they're more keeping with the origins of the style and have sod all to do with Deja Entendu.
the pAper chAse
share an awful lot of characteristics with bands labelled 'emo', but make music with a hell of a lot more panache, intelligence and creativity.
also, the rites of spring and embrace (the american ones, not the british oasis wannabes), if you want old-skool emo.
I was going to mention the pAper chAse
but I didn't want to scare the shit out of the guy, it's hardly The Boy Who Blocked His Own Shot. Punknews' review of Hide The Kitchen Knives is one of the funniest reviews I've ever read.
But everyone should listen to them anyway. I missed them live last year and am kicking myself still (see also: These Arms Are Snakes and a billion other good bands).
^they can do no wrong in my book
You'd probably like The Record Play by Mock Orange
Give it a go
do sunny day real estate count?
<3
Texas Is The Reason
gets my vote
My recommendation...
...for hip_young_gunslinger would be to check out Brandtson, and then a load of other Deep Elm Records stuff (www.deepelm.com). I like lots of original emo and second wave stuff (Mineral and Braid are two of my favourite bands), but Deep Elm was my route in, a few years ago.
Does anyone like The White Octave? God they're good.
oxymoron
there is no good emo
shut up
Some of the elitism in this thread is fucking sickening
Guys says he wants something along the lines of Brand New and Fall Out Boy, and people come along and suggest Rites of Spring? Seriously, fuck off.
:D
but it's not cool to like pop punk!
i didn't read anything but the title when i started listing bands, so i missed the fallout boy bit.
i don't really have to justify myself either, it's like me going "AH my god, can you guys please recommend me some good Dance music like REM?"
No it's not
It's nothing like that. "Emo" refers to at least 2 distinct musical movements; "dance" does not. Are you saying you refuse to recognise that? Because that would be the most elitist of all the things said in this thread.
I know bugger all about the history of emo
In fact I have only a very tenuous grasp of what actually counts as 'emo'.
But I would reccomend Rites of Spring because I like them, is that OK?
No
What's the point? The guy's clearly asked for examples of something very different. If he'd just said "bands like Brand New and Fall Out Boy", you wouldn't even think of recommending Rites of Spring, so why do so just because he's used the word "emo", in inverted commas, and followed by the caveat "I've taken a slightly deconstructionalist view and decided that since all signifying words are subjective, and the two words of the thread title doubly so, it was was safer to use quotation marks"?
are you refusing to recognise that Dance has a wide variety of branches?
and that this one time, REM did a song with a dance beat?
fuck off mate, fall out boy sound like blink 182, and i've never heard anyone call them 'emo'. just because some turd off hollyoaks with a floppy black fringe and mascara is "liek totally emo" and listens to what is essentially gay metal and pop punk, doesn't make it fact. get a grip and stop throwing the E-word around willy-nilly because it makes you feel better.
p.s
2 distinct emo movements = mid 80s, and then the mid 90's
you're like one of those religious types who has read every text of their religion
and knows nothing of the others.
whether or not you like the modern progressions of emotional music or not, you cannot dismiss them as being such. yes FOB are pop punk, (brand new started off that way, but have lost the a lot of the punk, and are about as poppy as Radiohead).
you mention Metal in reference to FOB, yet Metal was a genre which stemmed out of the Blues Rock in the sixties. i'd find it a lot easier to draw links between braid and brand new than i would between Black Sabbath and Fall Out Boy.
basically, what i'm trying to say is that yes, there was some great "emo" in the 80's and it came back again in
you'd do well to stand down, and accept that you've received some positive feedback for your knowledge of the emo movements in the 80's and 90's.
OK, I LOSE REAL EMO IS BRAND NEW, OK? OK!
sarcasm will get you nowhere
and yet again you're missing the point. Brand New are emotional music, who i happen to like, if you don't like them you don't have to, that's your choice, but there's no point in defending a word that you want to remain exclusive to the movement that you're obviously in love with.
ps, Blink 182 are gay metal are they? well why have you got 18 play of them on your last.fm then eh?!?!?!? yeah, that's right, i've got detective skillz, and i'm guessing you've chosen to listen to them more times than that!
anyway, i'm off to get some of the best sex in my life, goodnight
NO, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT, BRAND NEW, GREATEST EMO BAND EVER, YEAH? YEAH!
p.s i didn't mention blink 182 sounding like gay metal. they used to be my favourite band about 6/7 years ago.
that's not even what i'm saying dude
now stop trying to wind me up with your narrowmindedness, and go wank off some beafeater.
:D
THOU SHALT NOT USE THE WORD 'EMO' IN VAIN
Fucking hell, get your head out of your arse, you tart.
were you dropped on your head as a kid?
texas is the reason
.
THE YOUTH OF TODAY
120 REPLIES ON FUCKING EMO
IN MY DAY YOU'D HAVE BEEN OFF FIGHTING WARS AT YOUR AGE, NOT LISTENING TO GAY MEN CRY AT EACH OTHER
recently i have been listening to a lot of
lemuria
knapsack
tigers jaw
up up down down left right left right b a start
<3 Lemuria
there are some really good bands in this thread
i'm suprised no one has mentioned the audition!!!
anybody else like their stuff? i can't get enough of "my temperatures rising"
http://www.youtube.com/v/RuZbpxVDbkE
this reminds me....
sunny day real estate reformed! woo!
brand new on saturday! WOOO!!!!
totally second stwerewolf on this
if there was a 2nd wave of emo in the 90's it was purely of the midwest / early deep elm styles. how are fallout boy anything but pop punk? fuck the 'all music is emotional' stand off, completely irrelevant. and knapsack! was wondering when someone would get to that. plus..... algernon cadwallader, arrows, always the runner, the pine, the saddest landscape (cheesemo, but amazing), the shivering. rites of spring are pretty much the definitive on this though.
i'm listening to Stereo by Christie Front Drive
and it is probably the best emo lp ever.
(BUT STILL SOUNDS NOTHING LIKE FALL OUT BOY)