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are any of them good apart from Botch and Converge?
i'm biting my work pass so as not to laugh!
I would not put them in the same genre as Botch or Converge at all.
As always I'm keen to promote the wonders of Vision of Disorder and Turmoil.
'Imprint' and 'For The Bleeders' are top though.
I like southern style metal/rock but VOD just don't do it well.
Stick to the self titled and Imprint in my opinion.
I used to drink in the Hob in maidenhead alot when I was a young'un! I've seen a few of us m4 corridor types on this forum recently.
The Hob has changed man, changed.
I know, I was in there a month or so ago. It was weird. Mostly the same decor but it's dead. Music is not good and it STILL contains my ex girlfriend. Still serving up those deadly snakebites?
I was very much a Newt drinking man before it became a pile of rubble.
imprint is a crazy album, but for the bleeders is awful !
Through my eyes is a AMAZING tune. Bass sound on that album does it for me.
Poison The Well
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Although people will argue about what genre these bands REALLY belong to for HOURS they're definitely in the same brackets as Botch and Converge.
I'd never thought of them in such terms, but I spose they do. They are amazing.
poison the well are amazing
Throats (best band in the UK)
Old Man Gloom
not all proper metalcore, but if you like Converge you will probably like them.
theres more too but that should be enough to go along with for now...
just said they are similar in some ways to converge, and if you like converge, you will like them.
now stop being a pedantic twat showing you know all these different genres.
but in what fucked up universe are Old Man Gloom considered stoner?
not that i wanted to get into this
and trap them arent. prove to me how they are d beat.
these genres are bollocks, you are proving this because a case could be made for many bands being one of about 5 subgenres.
are surely screamo, not crust punk.
assuming you want to argue over genres.
could also be argued to be about another 3 genres in themselves.
hardcore to me means minor threat, not rise and fall. and you could argue about what pig destroyer or pg.99 are anyway.
your logic is tenuous really and just serves to prove that defining any band as one sub sub genre just doesnt ever work.
by using one, but they usually do more to confuse than actually help
which is what makes classsifying bands these days such a painful and useless endevour. OMG veer between all sorts of genres but primarily hardcore metal & doom. They may occassionally throw the odd stoner-type groove in there but if you had to pin them down to one genre it would have to be hardcore/metal. But it's especially pointless doing so for a band like OMG as they're a side project and have a tendency to go off on wild tangents into whatever genre they like.
Have been proclaiming Hot Damn! the best album of all time. It really is though.
It is a MIGHTY album
What is metalcore? I was always under the impression it was hardcore punk mixed with metal.
these bands are more hardcore/post hardcore, though all pretty good.
its been around ages, but it gets called all kind of things. people acting like theres a definitive boundary for it are bellends and should probably listen to music rather than thinking what exact genre it is.
most bands incorporate loads of different elements to their music, and saying they are on thing does them a disservice, and makes you look like a twat.
The point for the original poster is that there's loads of bands, regardless of what sub-sub-sub-genres they may be included in, that are awesome and need to be heard.
despite seeing them live the other week... so i don't think it was me! besides i've never been one to spout a load of crap with a lack of self awareness or sense of possible hypocrisy :P
Starkweather - myspace.com/starkweather666
Breach - www.myspace.com/73645848
Buried Inside - www.myspace.com/buriedinside
Burst - www.myspace.com/burstrelapse
Eden Maine - www.myspace.com/edenmaine
are the ones that come to mind other than a couple that have already been mentioned
they're a phenomenal band
have produced some pretty awesome material. I'd also suggest Architects although having read some of the previous posts I guess they might not be classed as metalcore?
but thats about it really. i wont deny they are good at what they do. but what they do= ok.
genres have changed just in the years I've been listening to them. Using them as a example. I would have never considered some of the bands the kids these days "hardcore" but that's because hardcore was bands like life of agony and biohazard when I was a kid!
Also, Narrows are a new 'Supergroup' featuring guys from TAAS, Some Girls and the vocalist from Botch, their EP is pretty good, if not spectacular.
But then I wouldn't know what to call them! Spazzy jazzy post-hardcore maybe? Who knows? Who cares? I hate genres
Album of 2008 and it's kinda metalcore but more like metalcore for grown ups. Seriously amazing album.
i saw them on saturday... was brilliant
both 'Notes From The Turncoat Campaign' and the split they did with Maths are brilliant.
Every Time I Die - Hot Damn!
not gonna worry about what constitutes metalcore, there's been some great suggestions already (coalesce, eden maine etc)
curl up and die
early cave in
ion dissonance (avoid latest album, it's atrocious)
tear from the red-era poison the well
the red chord's first album
gotta love it
I rate Every Time I Die, and Architects, but I can see why people wouldn't.
Dare I say.. Bring Me The Horizon?
they're what gives the genre a bad name
BMTH don't really cut it to be honest, the first album is just straight up cliched deathcore, I guess the new one's a bit more metalcore but still pretty week.
I thought they were really good live, and the second albums got some nice moments. Worth a spotify at least.
and dont be all 'wooooooo im drunk and out of control ,DONT EAT MEAT!' its ok
So listen to them, both excellent.
WHVN and Carpe Diem are both Metalcorey no?
is possibly one of my favorite albums of all time :-D
hard to know what to call metal core. 36 crazy fists heart and the shape rocks. Norma jean also rock. I find everytime i die cheesy but everyone else loves em.
will haven and converge but only the key albums not new stuff.
also yes architects are the up and comers.
This thread has just been one big typo fail after another for me.
different people find diff things cheesy i guess, ive seen both live too and 36 crazy fists blew me away ETID barely made me shuffle.
Heart and the shape is on my most underrated records list too.
so this thread is useful stuff
Thank you all
I can see there were the usual arguments about genres though, it always seems to be the way. People should just accept that some bands fit into more that one genre, or aren't easily classifiable. It's not always so black and white.
Dillinger Escape Plan
Poison The Well
Between The Buried and Me
Fear Before The March Of Flames
The Red Chord
The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza
Devil Sold His Soul
Curl Up And Die
From Autumn To Ashes
From A Second Story Window
Many of these are hugely different to each other but I guess you could call them metalcore to some extent. Either way, they're all good in my opinion! Several are just as good or better than Botch or Converge to me.
I got all 3 Earthtone9 albums in a cellaphane pack for £10 in HMV a few years back. They were good.
Who'd have thought they were the ones that broke that terrible band Lost prophets haha
Bet I look like a right saddo
"The Always Open Mouth" is one sensational album. I didn't even think of them due to this "metalcore" thing the thread starter asked for, I really didn't know what bands counted, but they don't really sound like Converge/Botch, which is why they didn't come to mind. That comparison was all I had to base anything on.
I guess any band that does qualifies on some level, right?
I don't know what really 'qualifies'. You'd think anything that combines metal with hardcore would be metalcore but I don't think it's as simple as that. Indeed, many of today's well-known 'metalcore' bands, like Atreyu, Killswitch Engage, Trivium, etc are more 'metal' than 'core', and neither Botch nor Converge sound a thing like any of those bands so are they not metalcore? It's a tangle init?
Art Damage and Odd How People Shake are about a billion times better. Which did you hear first? Cos I think when people hear The Always Open Mouth first they tend to love it, but to me it sounds like a totally different band.
but I plan to get the other 2 you mentioned. I've delayed getting them up till now because I love TAOM so much and I don't want to be disappointed, I know it's a bit silly but I do that sometimes.
Art Damage is the nuts, especially the last track - they way it builds up to that really nasty riff at the beginning. I heard some of the stuff that was on The Always Open Mouth, but it didn't really appeal.
His vocals on some of the songs are just unbelievably crushing. Works really well playing off the other vocalist as well, don't normally see that in 'metalcore' (going by what's metalcore in this thread anyway).
art damage is crushing. AOM works best as an album, if you take the songs away from the order it kills them.
I like The Always Open Mouth a lot, but it's a bit hit or miss (and a bit long). Art Damage is the bee's knees though.
i'm very much looking forard to getting all christain with them next month!
Knut and Hopesfall!
Dillinger is a gimme! I love their ep with Mike patton!
are easily one of the best bands in the country at the moment as well. Still annoyingly haven't seen them live.
sometimes. They go a bit far with it all, like the dramatic ending to the cheesiest film of all time. Except metal.
But y'know, when they do it right they make me do my METAL FROWN OF APPRECIATION.
but totally fucking awesome.
in day for airstrikes... one of my personal favourite instrumental rock bands...
It also describes some of the worst music ever written.
But the same goes for indie
I just really don't like the term metalcore. It makes me think of Bring Me The Horizon and Trivium, rather than Beecher and Converge
These days, so many bands combine metal and hardcore and yet sound vastly different, which means the really good bands end up lumped into the same pot as things like BMTH, Bullet For My Valentine, Atreyu, Avenged Sevenfold, Trivium and the like, which one would argue AREN'T good bands (that's me being diplomatic btw. Being less opinionated is a New Years Resolution of mine!)
are all the Tits
Dead Swans too
would you prefer the term metalic hardore?
mention American Heritage ?
they are realeasing another one this year ...
Heavy Heavy Low Low
The new Underoath album
The Now (http://tinyurl.com/calpfh)
I don't care for genre classifications, these guys are just loud and proud.
And it's SO shit. Underoath are decent though.
Textbook Tradegy's first album was BEEF.
Its all about Carpe Diem, Jane Doe and CAlculating infinity tho..
And Burnt by The Sun... that shit was MACHO!
id describe hell songs as just scary music
"IIIVVEEEEEEEEEEEE BEENN CALLEDDDD A SIINNERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"
it really is mental. not metalcore mind, just twisted fun noise :)
are you going to the bronx,fucked up and rolo tomassi at cockpit?!
Also, if I knew that Daughters were allowed to be mentioned in this topic then I would have done it a long time ago. Hell Songs is amazing.
considered to be Metalcore? Cause they are pretty good. Maybe I don't understand the definition of the genre. I must be old, now where are my reading glasses...
i know they're not metalcore but neither are half these bands
get sikth stuff too and will haven
i miss sikth so much :(
norma jeans first one is a classic
Not metalcore, but certainly somewhere in this general area. This thread has almost gone off on a "all things heavy" tangent. I wouldn't really know what metalcore was anyway, I could guess metal + hardcore but you never know.
please read my posts Andy. People are recommending things that aren't what I'd describe as metalcore at all. Protest The Hero are speed metal, that's one example.
please tell me you're joking
August Burns Red, As I Lay Dying and Shaped By Fate!
also The Devil Wears Prada and Dead Swans but maybe these are more towards the deathcore and hardcore-punk side...
the satellite years is absolutely essential and also contains my favourite album artwork.
dillinger escape plan are easily in the top 3 bands ever also
rise of raphia are good too!
strugling for good ones not already mentioned:
the eyes of a traitor
take a worm for a walk week
chronicles of adam west
heaven shall burn
born of osiris
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I feel rancour
I love metal genre arguments.
As I Lay Dying, Norma Jean, Underoath, The Chariot, The Devil Wears Prada...all of these bands have made the drive home from a stressful day teaching much more enjoyable! But when does metalcore become deathcore? Doomcore? Does punkcore even exist?
...In the meantime I am typing this at school during my lunch-break and some kid outside is playing Limp Bizkit on their mobile phone. No need.
Cave In's Until Your Heart Stops. Genuinely one of the best albums ever.