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I really do need to know.
Give reasons for your answer...
Nothing against Tom Waits but it's absolutely not a contest.
There's only one way to find out...
by miles for his last 2 albums alone...
Clara might be the most wondefully terrifying song i have ever heard
Although I do love Scott Walker.
Although I haven't really heard as much Tom Waits as I have Walker. I'm not sure how anything can be as good as The Drift or Scott 4 though.
by a several miles...I keep trying with Walker but it never seems to get very far. I still think the best thing he did was to produce Pulp's album.
can't be bothered to choose.
however while I know a bit of Scott walker material I do not know much and i know all of Tom Waits stuff so perhaps I am not being entirely fair. But from what I've heard I far prefer Tom Waits.
But i do think he is the greatest songwriter in the world and so therefore i would say that.
Scott walker is wonderful though.
Tom Waits is a hack
Although I'd pay vast sums of money to hear Scott Walker work his way through Scott One through Four live.
i'd really like you to explain your way out of this one.
I've never even heard scott walker but i'd bet my bottom dollar that waits is better by miles.
a weak photocopy of his past glories. A weak photocopy of what people think he's supposed to be. Just weak
Maybe if you ignored his past glories he'd be decent, but since the 80s-and-before stuff is so good there's no excuse for his current form. It's almost embarrassing
Scott Walker started brilliant and has continued brilliance, but in a very different fashion. Maybe he's lost something of what made him so special before, but he's channelled his powers in directions he hadn't previously explored, probably finding new powers along the way. He's still an artist, expressing himself freely. Tom Waits is at best autopilot, at worst a Vegas facsimile of his former glories. Recognize
i keep hearing this statement, but it makes no sense. Are you saying all the experimentation on real gone is a facsimilie of that on rain dogs, or on bone machine. Really?
The stuff on Orphans compares more than favourably to his older albums.
by fucking miles
by some distance
I like Scott Walker more, though I have great respect for the work of Tom Waits.
I guess that would translate as 'Scott Walker, by a massively long way'
Got to be
His 'bastards' are something i actually enjoy too, which is more than could be said for Scott. Moreover, he has a great sense of humour and a tonne of interesting stories. A better performer too.
That's not to say i don't like Scott Walker too though.
for Scott 4 and the Walker bros stuff alone.
Just a shame his recent stuff is utter babble :(
Tom Waits is cool, Scott Walker is magical.
1. Better voice
2. Better tunes
3. Better lyrics
4. Better looking
5. Batshit crazier
I think we can all rest easy knowing the truth.
and that's saying something.
They are simultaneously nothing like one another yet utterly essential from earliest to latest stages in their careers.
at least he has tried to be innovative, rather than just making the same (albeit pretty good) album for the last 20/30 years.
how is Tom Waits not innovative? I don't remember hearing Scott Walker trying out beatboxing, but there you go.
And Tom Waits didn't invent beatboxing so I don't see how it's innovation.
I never said Scott Walker wasn't innovative, but there's clearly a lot of stuff that he hasn't tried that Tom Waits has (and vice versa). I think it's pretty innovative that Tom Waits tried out beatboxing in the context that he did on Real Gone, but yes ok - no shit, he didn't invent beatboxing. But if we're going to get pernickity then I'm pretty sure John Cage invented the concept of 'abandoning all conventions of arrangement'.
In short, they're both innovative in my opinion, even if they both didn't invent the concept of music.
it's fine to say you prefer Scott Walker, but to go and criticise Tom Waits for any reason whatsoever is more wrong than incest. INCEST.
Also, Tom Waits has done loads more great albums and interesting collaborations and is a more interesting interviewee (partly because he does occasionally actually do them I suppose). Aswell as being a pretty darn good a actor ('Wristcutters' is amazing). But I do like Scott Walker.
they are both legends. they are both mavericks. still, Waits takes it for me. better records (and more of them) plus he's the finest entertainer i've ever seen perform.
Had a hard time with Tilt (and The Drift) to be honest.
I have Scott and Scott 2 but haven't spent the necessary time to love them yet. I'm sure I will. 3 and 4 are good then as well, I take it. Probably cheap at the local cd shop too. Such a smooth voice, and such great restrain/sustain on his vibrato.
like this track, damn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yus2nX3JXIE
I think you've covered your bases.
My ignorant ass had to look that word up.
which unfortunately isn't on youtube and so this joke ends before it begins. As you were.
they're kinda essential...
I like some of Tom Waits' stuff - some of it quite a lot in fact - but those first four Scott albums are just perfection to me. He's got one of those voices you could live just inside. And people don't mention this too often - but he's also written some really beautiful lyrics, with such great imagery. Although actually, so has Tom...
Whatever, I'm still going with Scott.
Scott Walker has put out some real shit.
Tom Waits has been pretty consistently great.
But thats one bad ass album cover.
I love them both, but Tom Waits never made me cry like a baby.
I haven't heard Tilt or Drift though. but the stuff I have heard (very briefly) just seemed like.... dreary (yet bombastic and overblown) easy-listening pap....
so yeah, Tom Waits
Still think Tom Waits is better, probably.