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I'm a little excited! Anyone know if there is some support? I don't like surprises like that.
I really love 'em. I have no idea who the support is though
Never heard of them before. Synthy
so they are piloting the large toilet. With synths. Fine by me.
they were originally called Middenheim, which appears to be a reference to Warhammer - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middenheim
I'm guessing they changed their name in an attempt to look less like cretins.
Compare the logo:
On a different note.
Anyone who likes that black metal should check out Taake on the 7th of March ( at underworld ). They are a proper stand out black metal band for me up there with satyicon!
Re. the sound last year, who is tripping here, me, or the 'the sound was excellent' people? I'm slightly alarmed:
Every gig I've been to at the underworld has been pretty impressive sound wise. Black metal has to have a bad sound to it generally it's part of the whole ethos.
looking forward to this gig.
For some reason, I haven't yet heard this band. I fancy doing some live discovery work.
kind of surprised they go down so well with the 'indie' crowd
and are playing with mount eerie in america, I think indie may out number metaller in their audience
saying how much he dug Xasthur and bands of that ilk. Indie-black metal is totally hype, for better or worse
I probably never would have otherwise, but I really really liked it, people like me probably annoy proper black metal fans
It'll all blow over by 2010.
Indie kids will be bored of metal by then of course. I've from a metal background so I won't be forgetting about them.
WITTR will still be amazing forever, but the name-dropping element (c'mon! you know what I mean) will be long gone.
It's acquired taste I have to say. Indie crowd seem to be latching on to anything that is on southern lord after sunn o))) got big.
Basically they are no emperor but they are very enjoyable!
phil, you should come!
are they? They're just not. Not consistently, not interesting enough. WITTR is going to be great. Graceful,elegent, immersive post-black-shoegaze-metal whatever. This stuff is genreless/genrespanning, whatever side you butter your metal bread - Brighton Engine Rooms with Fall OF Efrafa, 2nd Feb. Be there!
Emperor are one of the few black metal bands I still go back to. The rest I'm just ( bar a few others ) I'm just bored to the teeth with. Nothing new has happened in the genre for years. Emperor really hold themselves together while exploring what you can in the genre.
Needless to say I am a fan!
you kidding? Objectively false statement.
That is some good shit! I gave up on new black metal bands long long ago it seems that "post black metal" seems to be taking it more towards burzum's ambience and doom metal ( of the my dying bride side of doom ).
But there are just so many amazing BM bands at the moment I barely know where to start, e.g:
The Ruins of Beverast - www.myspace.com/theruinsofbeverastfanpage
Nachtmystium - www.myspace.com/nachtmystium
Drudkh - www.myspace.com/drudkhukraine
Negur? Bunget - www.myspace.com/negurabunget
Blut aus Nord - www.myspace.com/thehowlingofgod
Not to say that it is not good. I was tired of hearing yet another group of kids that dressed up like Immortal and played worse than Dark funeral.
Black Metal needs something new! I'll check out all those bands once tomorrow!
surely there's a pretty obvious contradiction in believing in the idea of a true (trve?) black metal and wanting to hear something new!
Seriously, if you want to hear something that doesn't sound like the 90s Norwegian scene, the above will give it to you
without churning over old cliches endlessly
or going the way of dimmu borgir or cradle of filth and turning those sounds into a ridiculous boo-hiss pantomime
But I suppose I have a fairly wide definition of what's true to the spirit of black metal. I think it's wanky when genres/scenes become some kind of constraint on artistic freedom
Those suggestions and his responses are excellent. I might also add some bands, but be prepared for them to be progressive and non-conformist,which you Emperor fans might not appreciate if you think they are still relevant and Troo Kvlt is a worthy cause.
Dead Reptile Shrine
Woods of Infinity (early)
Circle Of Ouroborus
Meads of Asphodel
Go and Encyclopedia Metallum all these.
The spirit of black metal isn't so simplistically defined and it never was easily reducible to anything. The more you read and learn about those original artists the more you will find that there never was any overarching ethos or agreed upon modus operandi at all; in fact you're more likely to be a bit disappointed at how immature and ill-conceived the whole scene was, especially the grimnity and satanic religiosity. Probably why there is so much emphasis on those original albums as being 'the sound' and 'the vision' that BM has to be. The fact that Ulver, Absu, Von and Absurd were all part of that second wave (that came after Venom and thrash-era Darkthrone) all of whom are utterly different to each other in sound a conceit and all of whom contribute as much to the evolution and legacy of black metal as Emperor, Mayhem, Bathory and Burzum.
Revisionism and tradition were never intended to be part of the scene, they were just tacked on at the end of the 90’s by people who ran out of ideas and were scared of progress.
In the Nightside Eclipse and Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk = classix. They went a bit shit after that.
I've still got a copy of Prometheus that belongs to a guy I used to work with about 18 months ago and lost the phone number of. It's shitty. He's still got my copies of Kenose by Deathspell Omega and Panopticon by Isis. Massive fail
It was no where near as good as Nightshade and Anthems though. Those albums can only really truely listened to with headphones.
of the big high profile black metal bands.
Probably the most accomplished in terms of songwriting and musicianship as well.
There's a new EP, called Malevolent Grain, which allegedly will be available on the tour, and the new album, Black Cascade, is out at the end of March
Wolves in the throne room were sublime, I was very impressed with the first band on as well that really showed some fucking noisey promise. Much like early electric wizard there brutalised my ears. WITTR Stole the show though will a relentless set that had me smiling from bleeding ear to bleeding ear.
I also saw the women of my dreams!
note: Bobble hats are not black metal
How TERRIBLE were the main support act? I was appalled and offended by them. Wearing a "I killll you" tshirt and walking shoes made me angry alone!
we also observed the bobble hat.
Yeah WITTR were SO much better than last time. I was ready to start a fight with the sound guy last time.
I've listened to the new EP once. I'm not sure about it yet. One track has ALL clean vocals! It's very post-rocky
I thought they were great, and infinitely better than last time thanks to decent sound this time. The atmospheric nature of their recorded output still isn't coming through that much in the live show that much, but it's still awesome stuff. Would like to have got the tour ep but..yknow, £15 for a two track pitcure disc? No chance pal. I really hate picture discs, they're gross.
Ya it seems the bobble hat man was well noticed I also so a bready man with a baret. It just felt wrong.
I was busting a sunn hoody and black sabbath tshirt just for old school factor <3
Did anyone see the first band on? Doomy as hell. I'll be going to see them again!
better than last time. I could actually tell which song was which this time, at least when I was further back. A move to a 4 piece was a good step though I'd like to see a samply/keys person and a female vocalist and for them to use more dynamics live.
Bobble hat, beret and man wearing tiny round glasses with a tache all spotted. At least try and look like you have liked metal previously in your life.
The main support act were dreadful. Oppressive whiff of British metal band with air of cheesiness and a terrible gurning frontman. Not helped by the sound though. I could only hear the drums.
I'm a bit worried about WITTR though. I didn't realise one of the members had left and they've also changed the logo to one that's not as good but readable. I really don't mind if they change their sound to a more commercial or gentle one (they're going to get pretty big, it is inevitable), but just hope they aren't going to end up sucking.
They've gained a member, no?
I'm also suspicious of the logo change, although the old one was literally unreadable
their bassist is amazingly named Ross Sewage
I'm just going by what someone said on last.fm so probably not reliable. Maybe they were just referring to the man who left years ago. I was basically just looking for reasons to fear that they might go shit and that was all I could manage.
seems like they have the new guitarist and he replaces mr sewage but I can't find reference to this on their site or anywhere on the internet. If it's only the bassist that's left then I'm not too worried
the old vocalist/guitarist does appear to have left. He wasn't an original member anyway - I've always assumed the Weaver brothers were the main songwriters anyway.
I've just noticed they're playing in Birmingham in March, which suggests maybe they're touring the new album here as well! Amazing scenes.
It was pointless crap. I was so offended I went outside to smoke repeatedly.
I felt that there were quite a few people were there because they are very fashionable at the moment. There was alot of people rubbing chins instead of nodding heads enjoying it. I'll let the girl off with the blue and white dress though.
Alternatively, I wish I hadn't read this thread about how good the gig was. Damn you all.