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to mention it, but what do people think of Pitchfork's dig at the UK in the Glasvegas review?
So far as I can see in the UK music scene at the moment there does tend to be a lack of characters, personality, creativity and ideas.
"Here in America, we spent a lot of 2008, and now early 2009, celebrating a noise-pop underground that, in places, takes weak pop songs and slathers them with fuzz and reverb under the pretense of art."
this is dead on
and their last record is stripped down like crazy
its one guys opinion, different writers do have different tastes.
i can never remember any deerhunter track bar flourescent grey, were as glasvegas songs are very catchy.
very good hooks. and i didn't intend that in a glasvegas vs deerhunter way.
That's being generous.
waaaaaay to much about music. They should maybe try enjoying some for a change
but it still annoys me.
is that Pitchfork appear to be really smart and I think they are but they still seem to think, or it comes across as, the best new British music is to be found in the NME. I think most people on this board agree that Glasvegas are not that great, but does that mean the whole of UK indie is crap? I don't think so, and I think bands like Wild Beasts, Sky Larkin, Danananakroyd, Frightened Rabbit, LC!, FOTL, These New Puritans, Mumford & Sons, Manhatten Love Suicides, Sexy Kids etc prove that.
Pfork is a great web site though, and is usually pretty much spot on with what it reviews, but I dunnon, they do seem to come down a little heavy on UK bands sometimes, like the last Cribs album for example. I dunno, it probably isn't worth worrying about though...
I cant think of anymore of those they have reveiwed.
This is just one guys opion its not all of pitchfork.
they do get behind a lot of UK bands and even introduce me to new ones from time to time so I'm not having a go at them or anything. I think the Glasvegas review is spot on, the score a too high if you ask me (they gave Noah & the whale like 3.something and I much prefer that album).
I guess the only part that annoyed me (a little) is the comment that UK indie is in bad shape (which it might be) because there are loads of good UK indie bands (the ones I mentioned plus others like Lovvers), but I agree that there still are too many shit ones.
the indie main stream is really in bad shape these days and come to think of it I've not seen a really good like really new band from the UK in a while now. They all seem to have been around for quite a while like a year or two. Very good stuff around though yeah.
wild beasts also had a glowing review
same to los campesinos
7.5 for these new puritans, which is pretty generous given http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/record_review/49304-beat-pyramid
can't be bothered to google more, but i remembered reading great reviews of a lot of what you listed, and many of them haven't released anything substantial enough to get reviewed
and will now stop.
and am in complete agreement - more focus on bands such as Lovvers, Danananaykroyd, Wild Beasts et al and then maybe the UK scene won't seem in such 'bad shape'.
Glasvegas? oh dear.
I think the comments on the UK/US scene are v fair.
there are a few i get excited by, but when you compare em to american bands thers just a bigger difference, the bands that should have made it never did, and now became shit, like neils children, and probably that fuckin tank, although they didnt become shit at all they jst have been giggin non stop
The article is bang on, sadly.
The music biz in the UK is all about finding a bunch of 22 year olds, spending loads of money on promoting their first album, then dropping them after an artistically and commercially disappointing second lp- when they might not have started getting REALLY good until their fourth or fifth record, which would never really get made.
Things are starting to change, but theres a far stronger sense of being able to do things yourselves or on a tiny budget in the states, I think, and far more of a tendency for people to start really 'getting' a band after they've got a bit of a track record, whereas the biz in the uk is all about a flashy first impression.
Look at An*mal Collective and Of Montreal- both been kicking about for ten or so years now, and growing artistically and commercially...Compare their careers to say, The Futureheads or something.
true, the UK indie music scene has been lacking in mainstream heroes for some time, we've always got bands like Radiohead floating the boat for the forseeable future but yeah, there is a lack of new household name bands I agree
firstly though, whats wrong with provincial accents? would the American people rather all uk indie bands sang with a fake American accent? erm probably actually...
also, all the examples he's given are very poor examples, Glasvegas are average and not a good face for British music, maybe if this guy looked a little closer he'd see that the UK underground has music bursting out of it that pisses on anything that America could ever produce
except At The Drive-In
they transcended beyond being another band on the 'UK scene' years ago
All they know are the UK bands that are already getting noted by other websites or publications. There's plenty of good stuff going on that is still underground, stuff that's exciting, sexy, fun, innovative. They just don't know about it.
the smell scene could beat almost anything thats going on here, and the bands around the smell is only a small portion of the american underground thats going on now
how can you expect Americans to have heard of bands like Dananananaykroyd, TALLSHIPS and Rolo Tomassi when 99% of the people in THIS country haven't even heard of them
and the bands that are comin out glasgow are good too