Superb (and Hilarious) White Lies review
http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2009/01/white-lies-to-lose-my-life/
Although I don't like them, and agree with alot of the sentiment here, the score given is complete bollocks
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I love Thomas Whyman
he *could* do with perhaps *toning* down the number of *starred* *words* in his *reviews* though. Excellent street team response too - did you see how he called a music journalist a failed musician? Brilliant.
yes
those are *fucking* annoying.
Yak
Where the fuck have they come from and why? the hype around them is hilarious. Well done the reviewer for pointing out lyrics which make no sense.
But PS Every journalist is a failed musician! ;)
you should here his band
he is spot on about being a faild musician
WHO'S HIS BAND?
oops caps
some twee thing called
MRBLSHKRR or something like that I cant find da myspace again I forgot where I put it. There was a big thread on it a while ago, it was a bit mean.
Arr
MRBLKRSHR I think, possibly with some more RRRRRs at the end for good measure.
Here it is, I remember having a good chuckle;
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=391729532
dear god
its like art brut without the irony
except Neil Tennant
and chrissie hynde
she did alright for herself.
and gay dad.
wait.
good sentiment marred by horrible writing
*asterisks for emphasis* BIG CAPITAL LETTERS clumsy reference to unrelated credible band hahahahahahhaaha *more asterisks* MORE CAPITALS horible, like, syntax
but thats why we love melesmeles
he is a massive woolen indie cliche that likes to shout abuse.
melesmeles wrote it?
i'm so out of the loop, i should know the names of people and all that.
hehe
yep!
its his stuff his reviews get posted on here when he goes all over the top and has a rant like when he gave JoFo a 100% and now when he gives white lies a 0%
jonny foreigner's not a 10/10
ever ever ever
i'm not a big fan of reactionary music journalism on either end of the spectrum, unless its ridiculously funny (pitchfork's monkey pissing in its own mouth is pretty fantastic). I mean, a band like White Lies are so easy to take to pieces systematically and constructively, it only gives fuckwits that stupid "YUO ONLI DUN LIEK THEM COS THERE POPULAR U PRETNETIOS INDY SNOB" argument treating them like that. a 4-5 out of ten is far more damaging than a 0, 0 makes them seem like some kind of divisive, important band.
yeah it's kinda silly
I have no idea how he managed to go to the effort of ranting so hard about something so kind of middle of the road. I dont think I would even bother listing to it much if I got made to review it then my review would be meh... but a little longer. He must have been very bored indeed.
Bad review.
I bet their girlfriends are fuming
</slightly obscure "indie" reference>
That must have been fun to write.
Scathing polemic is very fun to write, and that was some particularly bilious copy indeed.
100/100 for the vitriol
0/100 for the final scoring.
Nice to see KiK make an appearance at the bottom.
Wonder what he thinks of all this Kaka bollocks.
I've never heard anything by White Lies
and that review is quite funny, but those lyrics aren't that bad really. There are a lot worse out there.
stupid forum
ANGRY FANS FTW!
Mark Says:
January 13th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Bitter much? You must be some sort of failed musician who cannot let go of your lost dreams of success, and therefor must trash anyone who attains what you could not. Here’s an idea, instead of critiquing the band for your preconceived notions about them, why not instead just focus on the music. And 0%? Come on, that’s not fair. You should be above being so petty and nasty. Taken down a peg? What is your problem? They are just doing what they love, and you are a little weasel harping on them because you are blinded by jealousy and lack of real talent. Oh yeah, your prose sucks too. Learn to write!
Some beautiful lines, am definitely stealing
"taken off the line entirely".
Numerical scores for records - a bit gash anyway?
That was *really* shit.
Do you, like, see what I did?
I think the score makes sense
He's trying to make a point with the review and the score, and it's a very good point. White lies are gash. Would it make any more sense if he gave them 12%, or 34%?
Also, reading the review, he doesn't appear to be taking anything quite as seriously as some of the comments (jealous, blind weasel that he is).
white lies are terrible
...
Leaving aside how badly written this is - littered with unsubstantiated invective and a strange random capitalisation - music reviews that only briefly mention the ACTUAL MUSIC get an automatic fail from me.
But then, it's easy to slag.
Every journalist is a failed musician?
What a load of horseshit. Does that mean Alex Kapranos is a failed musician? White Lies album has some great songs on it, but then it's always will be fashionable to slag off popular acts won't it.
No, he's slagging off White Lies
Yes. Well done.
Alex Kapranos has definatly failed
heheheh
failed musician/journalist
the two don't have to be mutually exclusive do they? I know loads of guys who write for the *press* and are in bands that are ace. That said whyman is very litigious, but he's made people talk about his review more than the awful album White Lies have regurgitated. I mean, do they think people have never heard of Ultravox?
...
"That said whyman is very litigious..."
...What? Explain.
um, many people won't have heard of ultravox.
Contrary to many people's beliefs on this board, not everyone is as music savvy as themselves. I don't think White Lies are exactly parading around claiming to have invented a brand new sound.
y'know...
...he's combative, reviews I've read are heavy on the ol' polemic. So by giving them 0% people will talk more about the style of reviewing than the merits of the album. He's a pretty decent writer though.
...
"I’ve got to admit I don’t listen to the radio, so maybe that’s part of it, but how hyped bands nowadays are supposed to emerge, at least into the mainstream (though lets not pretend that the successes of the Animal Collectives, Deerhunters and Fleet Foxes of this world is *completely* down to some sort of powerful grassroots movement here), seems just so clandestine, so *arbitrary* a process, I just don’t have the faintest idea how one might break into it, even if I for example *did* have the requisite talent to write, like, quality pop music in the vein of FrankMusik or something, how I would even start to go about cracking into the ‘Musicworld’. (In, like, some sort of mysterious institutionalist sense)."
thats, like, some great writing
the line of bull shit more like
LOL
That's an awful review
I do not get the starring at all
If the internets let people type italics they wouldn't have to do *this* all the time.
Also, I wish people would stop calling music journalists failed musicians as a stupid kneejerk comment. FFS, just stop.
Having read this thread,
I now have "Let's grow old together - AND DIE AT THE SAME TIME!" stuck in my head. I'm going to change it to "Let's grow old togther - AND SOUND LIKE EDITORS!" and see if it improves.
all of this is much pish
White Lies are a decent band who will probably do well this year, and good for them. They were excellent at Reading Festival I thought.
Far better them on the radio than the derivitve bland trash that is The Kooks, The Enemy, The Fratellis etc etc ....and don't even get me started on that Frank Turner single - it's driving me insane with its uber mindless radio friendly posturing.
Hearing White Lies on the radio is a blessed relief compared to this lot - even that ringtone inspired MGMT rerelease....I'm feeling gumpy!
There are better bands but the Ultravox alikes
I interviewed white lies last year
...before NME even sniffed their presence and I fell in love with them there and then. I was blown away by Harry's voice and the atmosphere that they created, I felt like I was back in time listening to joy division, the smiths or the stone roses live. I don't really know how I feel at this stage about their popularity, I knew the moment I watched them play that they will be huge. I kinda ignore the fact that they are big as it doesn't matter cos I really like them. I guess I feel that I found a band without seeing a review first and made my own mind up, there was no hype or anything around them when i first heard their songs I thought it was okay, but when I saw them live it was something else.
this^
they were fucking brilliant on jools holland.
really?
I went down to the beeb for that one (not to see WL, just for the craic) and thought they were epically dull.
What exactly *IS* the sentiment?
CAPITALISE AND ASTERISK
*YES*
and for even greater effect...
put each letter on a separate line, and put asterisks around each letter, it'll put so much
*E*
*M*
*P*
*H*
*A*
*S*
*I*
*S*
on what you're saying that everyone will have to believe you
saw them support Glasvegas
...and they were pretty good. Better than Glasvegas, certainly, and I've had the album for over a week now and it's grown on me. Not incredible, but worth a listen.
It's not hard to be better than glasvegas
there is nothing organic or alive about white lies. they are dead and dull and devoid of energy and interest. fuck them.
"but with all the subtly of a blind ape"
*ugh*
Note to journalists - If you're going to berate a band for the paucity of their lyrical content, probably a good idea to make sure your own spelling's up to scratch first, otherwise you may find yourself hoisted by your own petard. I've not even heard the band yet and already I find myself siding with them after reading this. How ironic!
i love melesmeles style
he's unique and orignal, he conveys his point and he's not afraid of saying what he feels.
also he writes awesome reviews like this http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2008/08/trouble-books-united-colours-of-trouble-books/
read:
he gave a band on my record label a good review so i can't view his writing objectively.
if a toddler wrote a music review it'd be unique, original and it'd probably convey his/her point. doesn't mean the writer's not embarrassingly amateurish.
don't completely take me seriously
i'm not dumb, i was just using the current climate of hate against tom and his grammer to surreptitiously slip a link of a review. probably should have some sort emoticon at the end.
i stand by what i said, i'm not concerned by how the writer writes i'm more concerned with what they think about the music, so yeah punctuation and grammer are nice but really i want the ideas and opinions.
Equating 'good writing' with 'good grammar'
is really dumb anyway.
(or, more pointedly, 'correct' grammar)
yeah thats what i meant
but i wrote it when i just woke up so it was sleepy head writing.
If I had a hat, I'd do something with a hat
*If I had a *hat*, I'd do *something* with *a* hat
Thanks Henry!
PS: don't listen to lazerlife, he's the biggest cock on here.
if i wore a hat i'd tip it at you
wah wah wah
good to see a consistency with your approach to music and your approach to writing
Dullard.
CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING. Other than grinding, tedious negativity.
wah wah wah
i post about things i like and things i dislike, its the point of a discussion forum. if you're going off this thread (where near everybody ripped into the review) and the "britain's worst band" thread, you're going to have a pretty skewed perception by the nature of the discussions. you just seem like the kind of guy who gets really bent out of shape over opposing opinions
Actually, the amount of people hating my review
is about equal to the amount of people liking it, in this thread, and in other threads etc more people have liked it. SO THERE. You just seem to go around hating on me and it bothers me. Sorry. You obviously just have very different taste to me, I wouldn't have forced the issue if you didn't seem to be making it personal (whether you were or not, it seems that way).
well i'm not going to count it up
but more importantly, i had no idea it was you when i criticised the review in the first place. i don't think i've actually ever had any conversation with you other than in this thread (and you posting one response to me about pens in that other one), so i don't know why you think that
"its nice to just snuggle up with something all cosy"
"and its just all utterly lovely"
"just by how its all recorded"
Must. Use. Apostrophes.
0% (just)
*yawn
Well quite
Punctuation is like, so last year.
Homework assignment, was it?
C'mon, kids, this reads like something put together by a sixth-former, for inclusion in the school rag. Although, judging by some of the comments of support, I guess that tallies well with the target audience.
Are the White Lies the greatest band around? Are they lyrical genuises, penning modern-day masterpieces and who will stand the test of time and be forever hailed as genuinely original musical pioneers? Of course not. But they can hold a tune, they create a good sound, and whilst some of their lyrics are indeed a little clunky, some are actually quite interesting and well-constructed. They are a damn site better than most of the trash around at present.
But, whether you agree with the sentiment or not, it should be possible to look objectively at the review. It seems the author has at some point been exposed to genuinely funny, biting criticism and believes that he is up to the task of churning some out himself. He is not.
Indeed, from the pomposity and inflated sense of self worth, right the way down to the jarring clumsiness of phrase and awkwardly derivative style, he is the embodiment of all that he supposedly detests in the band he reviews. Those in glass houses....
... shouldn't drag up threads from two months ago?
... should learn how the reply system works?
OK, if it's so tricky
...for you to follow from one post to the next without the reply being indented, I'll humour you. I've seen "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest", I know how important order and structure can be to some people.
Calm down dear!
It's only an internet forum!
Must.
have.
last.
word.....
i don't think so
Snappy
You've cut me to the quick. You're absolutely right, of course. All opinions expressed above are nullified by the passing of two months. How embarrassing for me. Thanks for setting me straight, I'll endeavour only to talk about albums and/or threads created in the last hour, going forward. Now I come to think about it, the font I used was a really *stupid* shade of black, too.
white lies
manager ^^^^^^^^^^^
haha...
:-)
White Lies manager?
He's made complete laughable shite famous. He should get a medal for taking advantage of the morons who are buying this band's awful music.
^ I'm one of the morons who bought their record
and I'll hold my head up high and say I think it's pretty good and the lyrics - there are much much worse out there...Do you really like the Kooks or are you being ironic?
I'm being facetious
And, you know, more fool you. Mindless nothing bands who will disappear faster than they arrived like White Lies wouldn't exist if idiots didn't continually lap it up. This is, essentially, why I try not to hate bands so much as I do people. The manager and the team behind them are making money from idiots and should be rewarded for this :)