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and barely into it feel like it's special.
Anyone here a fan?
easily his best and maybe the best grime album so far. Acctualy scrap that it is teh best full grime album.
But out of curiousity, and the fact that I seem to agree with you a lot of the time and trust your opinion, what is the best grime album (I guess it's a compilation.)
Durrty Goodz - Aixom EP is really good and often mentioned as one of the top releaces but it's still not as complete as Boy In Da Corner as it's a mixtape of lots of diffrent beats from diffrent producers and Durrty Goodz on top.
Wiley has been giving it a go for years and years now and still hasn't coem close.
It's all about Mixtapes, live sets, radio and raves for grime really. They haven't quite got the hang of the album.
good mixtapes from 2008:
Trim - Soulfood Vol. 3
Dot Rotten - RIP Young Dot
Yeah, I was thinking mixtapes and comps are probably best to get, seems to be the same with most dubstep.
most dance genres thrive on singles though yeah so mixes and stuff are always good to get hold of.
Burial - Burial
Burial - Untrue
Pinch - Underwater Dancehall
Boxcutter - Glyphic
Distance - My Demons
Distance - Repercussions
Kode 9 & The Spaceape - Memories of the future
Vex'd - Degenerate
2562 - Arieal
Starkey - Epemeral Exhibits
The Bug - London Zoo
Dusk & Blackdown - Margins Music
Scuba - A Mutual Apathy
are all well worth a look as dubstep albums. this year coming is looking good too. Silkie, Quest, Heny G, more Kode 9, more Burial probibly, Pinch again, Boxcutter. Big things going on.
Overall, not just of the past year?
I've not been folowing it that much in recent years. I got really interested in it with Dizzee then kind of slipped with it all until this year when I found Trim and Dot Rotten. It's kind of been a radio thing and a really underground mixtape thing for ages now and if your not part of the scene it's kind of tough to get a look in alot of the time. Its a shame but it's the way it's gone.
Raves got shut down really quick as there was lots of trouble and idiots so they rarely happen anymore.
Now though radio has come online so even a Northen guy like me can folow at least soem of it. you can stream these worldwide.
Logan Sama is kind of the king pin of grime radio at the moment on Kiss 100 he has a show every monday night playing the big stuff. Rinse FM is where it's at for DJ's playing grime. Sub Fm's just brilliant.
Oh how I have no idea what that means. I'm from Amish Country in America, so yeah :-P. Well, not quite Amish country, but a shitload of Amish live around here. I'm about as far from the grime scene as you can get.
me too and I only live in the North of England!
Northen guy: North Yorkshire or something heheh
Grime is really London bassed not many people get a look in as a MC outside of London really. Pleanty of people all over the UK and even outside make Grime beats for the MC's but it's rare to see a MC from out of London.
Start the American Suburban Grime Revolution! Actually, if anyone wanted to get famous over here they'd have to be from here. Rock music it seems they can be from America or UK, sometimes even better to be from the latter, but people DEMAND cultural references and modern slang in their rap. I should listen to Boy In Da Corner and Tha Carter III over and over and combine the two to make America's first big grime album.
Have you heard of a dude out of Philly called Starkey?
He has been championing grime in the states for a while now. If you check out the radio section on here:
it has pleanty of UK / US bass music mashups going on. He now has a radio show on Sub FM every first monday of the month.
Of course he has to be doing it like, two hours from my house. Well then. I will have to settle for the American Suburban noise music revolution.
knock on his door!
he is a friendly chap
I always bump into him on dubstepforum and have interviewed him thru email too!
I have a feeling if I went to his house and said "Jimi The Exploder" sent bad things may happen.
he probibly wouln't remember my name from the forum heheh
but yeah why not
To drive two hours away to meet a man and saying "I know Jimi!"
probibly not not with these petrol aka gas prices.
I think when dubstep really gets going over in the US you will see more MC's jumping on the beats. It's only a matter of time the US accidently invent grime again ;)
And then we'll say we invented rhyme, and describe everything you did as "proto-grime" :)
one day you will get Lil Wayne on a 140 bpm track and it will be insane
so you may have to slip some redbull into his Sizzurrrrp! If you can...
and see how fast Auto-tune can function. Actually, I can't see any rappers who are big now shifting into dubstep territory. I feel like we'd need new ones...
hiphop and the culture over in the US is a hell of alot slower compared to the UK MC's. I mean UK MC's have grown up on Rave / Hardcore / D'n'B / Grime / Dubstep its all really quick stuff. In the US its got the whole hiphop culture at about 80 to 110 bpm or somthing.
there's something about it which makes it unique, the beats aren't generic...And can't quite put my finger on it. But it hooks you lyrically and works really well over the quite stripped back and sparsely produced tracks. It's better about a hundred times better than that dissapointing cash-haul in that was Maths + English.
it really stands out, Dizzee's production is so raw and spot on. It's easily his best and then the rest of the genre rally hasn't made a good album just tracks and bits of mixtapes. Grime shines live really by the looks of it. Dizzee has gone way beyond grime since he dropped Boy In Da Corner though.
in order to reach the mainstream and make real paper. Just look at Wiley's last 3 singles, Tinchy Stryder last couple of tracks and Dizzee's only no.1 which was a hook up with Calvin Harris. UK grime is a failure as a form of popular music. UK hip-hop is where its at right now
the electro grime crossover really hasn't worked at all, they really need to go back underground and just do it for the music again.
is dropping this year ;)
but current 'grime', like Trim, JME, Griminal, all that, just makes me laugh. Nowhere close.
I like Trim and Griminal is ok sometimes too. But it really is a shadow of it's self aint it, real shame.
was wicked this week, made me jerk my head back in disgust/delight.
creature I think it's called he played it on his show on monday too. Sick track.
are putting out something by raffertie soon i think. a good label around for a long time.
These are the imminent releases:
Remano Eszildn - R-Tracks (album)
Boxcutter - Arecibo Message (album)
Venetian Snares - Horsey Noises ep
Jamie Vex'd - In System Travel ep
Gemmy - Supligen ep
Tim Exile - Family Galaxy 12"
Tim Exile - Listening Tree (album)
Venetian Snares - Filth (album)
Shitmat - One Foot In The Rave (album)
Starkey - Creature/Miracles remix 12"
Distance - Skream/Goth Trad remixes 12"
Jega - Variance (album)
Falty DL (12" & album)
Ital Tek 12"
and many others
this is what I heard anyway...
just see cavs beat the celtics, jimi. lebron 38 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists, 4 steals, 3 blocks. celtics lost 7 of last 9.
Lebron is kind of on fire this season he is pissed and wants a ring doesnt he.
dude's hungry as fuck.
he will either do it this year with the cavs or move. I think the cavs are lookin the best they have done in a while though so he has a good chance.
lebron's stats are incredible and apparently he's not even had to play in 4th quarters much, because they're so far ahead.
mo williams was a great addition for the cavs this year.
thats pretty insane not even playin 4th quarters he will be fresh for the play offs.
make the play-offs. it's a while off yet.
why did i say the west indian center in leeds? like you didn't know what city it was in, hehe.
tired so i'm out,
I hope the rapters do too I have a soft spot for them
didnt get the second one and though with the exception of one or two tracks maths and english was pretty shit
It's interesting that this was essentially seen at the time as grime's Trojan horse into crossover success, and then not only did nobody else follow in its footsteps but Dizzee couldn't either and it's ended up stuck between going back to where it came from and flash in the pan attempts to make its big names get over in compromised ways like electrogrime and watch-based dance moves. Has Bizzle or Marvin formally apologised for grindie yet?
its a shame but then grime isn't one for albums really it's was anyway more of a dance music with MC's made for long dances and raves. Now it's going all hiphop alot of the time and loosing its dance beats, which still hasn't made a good grime album hehe.
the urban kinda underground has never really had any bad feelings towards selling out to make cash though, hence the electro stuff, which most people in the scene see as electro and not grime.