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where to start?
Then Merriweather Post Pavilion.
Then Sung Tongs.
Feels first, the Strawberry Jam, MPP, Sung Tongs, Here Comes The Indian, from most to least accessible, but not really an indicator of quality.
outline a clear progression, and the last two are a bit more out there so you might have to be quite into AC before you can enjoy them.
and work backwards
very anti-indie ha ha
unless it's a band as indie as Animal Collective.
If you like nice experimental, warm, uplifting music. Or complete and utter pop drivel. If the latter, then start with the new album. :(
Just because you can sing along with most tracks doesn't mean that they're morphed into the fucking Ting Tings. MPP is just as experimental, warm and uplifting as the rest of their albums, its just they've channeled their energies into creating more direct - yes, pop - music. That's something they've pretty obviously been doing their entire career.
Anyhow, their past three albums - Feels/Strawberry Jam/Merriweather Post Pavilion - make up a great trilogy, so start with them. After them I'd suggest Sung Tongs and Campfire Songs, which are bother to the folkier side side of the band. The rest of their discography is pretty hit and miss, tbh.
are talking shit.
they've been like this for ages, even as far back as sung tongs most of the tracks were really accessible and hook laden.
but that noisy period inbetween that and the beginning of the acoustic stuff would've made my sentence a bit overwrought/confusing
I'd lay good money on the fact that I still can't play the new album in my fairly open-minded design studio. It will still be shouted off and branded as unlistenable tosh. :(
Seriously though, its moving more and more into electronic pop than anything else. I remember the first time I heard Leaf House, and the sound was just pure beauty, put on Lion in a coma from the new one for example, and tell me that is anything less than 100000000000000000 times worse. Just my humble opinion mind - but yep, disappointing.
a dirty word?
well I am anyway
one of my favourite albums ever.
Then maybe try Panda Bear's album Person Pitch.
is certainly the most accessible. Once you've got it out of your system move onto Sung Tongs, then MPP, then Feels. Then the Peacebone ep for Safer, then Water Curses.
but I thought it was a bit rubish and the sining was really annoying.
So I'm gona try again with the new one, which sounds alright so far.
I still don't get all this hype though I mean they are alright but hell they get alot of it.
It's not true at all that Strawberry Jam is the right place to start. Get Feels and listen to 'Banshee Beat'... then listen to the rest at like 3am, when you feel weird and restless. It takes an absolute age, I tried and deleted both Feels and Sung Tongs TWICE, before Fireworks on SJ convinced me to go back and try again. Now I kinda feel like they're one of favourite bands in ages, everything clicks and is comfortable and I sit in an insomniac's daze listening through their back catalogue on repeat.
There's so much happening in everything they do, you need to let it seep into your brain synapses like a lovely gooey mess.
Everything's got a time and a place... nothing wrong with waiting a while to find it.
is my natrual kind of state at the moment heheh
I'm pretty sure I've heard stranger and more complexed music before that has clicked with me alot quicker. I sharnt be giving up on them right away.
They seem to have alot of ideas and put quite a bit into their songs but they kind of come out sounding very simular and in kinda the same mood.
they are alright though
you'll probably find that a bit different sounding.
then strawberry jam then here comes the indian & stg,stv
i would say.
haven't heard the new one, though. maybethatthen.
either start with that or Strawberry Jam
easily their best and..least annoying, album.
Animal Collective in 2008 sound like four people jamming on samplers and sequencers. Radiohead tried out the same set-up at one point, inspired by Public Enemy and The Bomb Squad, and ended up making Kid A. There are no dystopian polemics on Merriweather Post Pavilion, but the opposite, a total vocabulary for musical blissout - delirious vocal harmonising, elemental rhythms, detourned electronic signals firing out in vectors that swarm back to the song like boomerangs. Rather than via PE, Animal Collective seem to have arrived at this sound via Steve Reich, Detroit Techno, Brian Wilson and Kompakt.
Animal Collective do recall hiphop in one sense. Early DJs took the points where rhythm broke the surface of the song in funk, disco and R&B - literally the 'breaks' - then looped those bars endlessly to extend the peaks. Animal Collective do something similar to melodic hooks. From their earliest gigs to now (see "Brother Sport"), they've played with the way songs can be flattened towards hypnotic horizons, but on Merriweather Post Pavilion they manage not to flatten but to sustain a series of highs. "My Girls" is perhaps the most ecstatic possible hymning of the anxieties of finding somewhere to live. Like "Summertime Clothes", it's a wall of sound which is almost Spector-esque, with the wall a kaleidoscopic jumble of electronic graffiti. 2007's Strawberry Jam was just a sketch for this album, already one of the best records of 2009.
somewhat hyperbolic, though, and rather than sounding anything like Steve Reich, detroit techno or anything on Kompakt, it still sounds like fairly standard psych-folk/beach boys influenced stuff. It's not particularly radical or experimental or even especially original, nowhere near to the degree that they get praise for.
and it doesnt sound like psych folk they never really sounded like psych folk
considering theyve had no reviews for this one im aware of except from the one in the wire, unless you've been keeping close track of this release's reviews? Unless the album sounds the same as the rest of their back-catalogue? Feels sounds the same as sung tongs and that sounds the same as danse and that sounds the same as here comes the indian?
It's psych-folk? Seriously?
I should really quit the internet.
fairly clearly descended from the whole Elephant 6 style.
And have you seen the hyperbole that's come off the internet on this album, that make it seem like the most forward thinking thing to come out this decade, when in actual fact it's nothing Bjork wasn't doing 10 years ago with some added Beach Boys vocals.
its fairly clearly not (as if this isnt futile). I'm depressing myself.
but they're listed as experimental, noise pop, freak folk, indie rock and neo psychedelia on there, which would point to being able to describe them as psych-folk. They're certainly closer to that than they are Kompakt's minimal techno or Steve Reich's minimalism or hip hop or whatever the next internet fanboy is describing the new album as. They're nowhere near as diverse, experimental or difficult as the zealots would have you believe.
"Psychedelic folk or Psych folk is a loosely defined music genre that originated in the 1960s through the interaction between folk music and psychedelic rock or pop. It retained the largely acoustic instrumentation of folk, but added musical influences common to psychedelic rock and the psychedelic experience."
Bares little to no relation to this new album because there is no acoustic instrumentation. So pretty much any style of music is closer to their new album than that. I'd personally describe it as electronic pop (pop as in power pop if you want to get a little semantical) and I dont think you'd disagree because it's apparently exactly the same thing as bjork was doing ten years ago which, although i'm no expert, i'd describe as minimal and electronic. The bass is shaking in a very modern hip-hop style and that kind of party atmosphere is hardly revelationary and I doubt any internet fanboy - no matter how much of a zealot he is - would say it was. Theyre obviously not difficult as people as enlightened as you or me can see, well done us (doesn't really mean anything though).
"I wanted to make it an honest record. Me, here, myself, at home. I asked myself if there is such a thing as Icelandic techno, and how it could sound. Well, in Iceland, everything revolves around nature, 24 hours a day. Earthquakes, snowstorms, rain, ice, volcanic eruptions, geysers... Very elementary and uncontrollable. But at the other hand, Iceland is incredibly modern; everything is hi-tech. The number of people owning a computer is as high as nowhere else in the world. That contradiction is also on Homogenic. The electronic beats are the rhythm, the heartbeat. The violins create the old-fashioned atmosphere, the colouring. Homogenic is Iceland, my native country, my home."
Astute. Exactly how I would describe the electronic type music I have heard from bjork.
I'm not sure there are many musically electronic/sample based albums less icelandic sounding than MPP, that's just me though.
which would make everything on MPP preceded by parts of bjorks album (whichever one it is). I dont know what the resolution of this mystery could be and am genuinely curious.
for having an opinion which doesn't follow the masses. You usually get shot down for those sorts of things around here ;)
but it seems as good a place as any to start, then either Sung Tongs, Feels or Prospect Hummer EP. Avoid Strawberry Jam though, Fireworks and Peacebone aside it's woeful.
I did a little 'where do I start?' sub-thread with these about a month ago and I was recommended Strawberry Jam and Water Curses EP.
I amazon'd them both that same night. SJ arrived first. Wasn't sure at first. Seemed a bit too chaotic. Then, a few days later For Reverend Green totally clicked with me. I mean totally. Then the rest of SJ followed suit.
Still not sure about WC but I'm waiting for that moment (not listened to it as much to be fair)
I'll buy MPP in a short while.
For Reverend Green though, seriously.
I was a bit unsure of them first and then Rev Green clicked then everything else followed! Easily my favourite band now.
Merriweather is amazing, bout 5 or 6 absolutely brilliant tracks and then rest... just brilliant!
It was you, millionaire and richode who were the recommenderers. So, thanks. I'll get person pitch and feels soon as well.
I think Here Comes the Indian is the best thing they've ever done, with Strawberry Jam as number two. Both of them would be good places to start.
How on earth did everyone get hold of MPP?? Has it been leaked?! Can someone send it to me? I'm extremely excited about this.
is by a million miles the best. id then get merriweather then here comes the indian then feels. not a strawberry jam fan. its alright but his voice drives me up the wall and i prefer the more acoustic/ambient stuff theyve done.
but they were utter shite at atp in may
I thought that was awesome!
in that case is there a certain album i should listen to next?
Easily the most Person Pitch-esque of their albums. I guess there are elements of PP on Feels too. SJ is good, assuming you enjoy having your ears raped by treble.
is a lot more cutting than any TNV record I've heard. It's difficult to explain, but it's more digital and just really unpleasant, which is a shame because the actual songs are great.
i was always a fan but ive decided i love them. ive had to cancel my plans for koko but i'm going to go to the forum show in march instead. can't wait. ive only recently bothered to listen to water curses and i wish i had listened sooner now.
i could listen to the first two songs on mpp on repeat all day and not get bored i think. i played them to friends who had never heard them before last night and they told me to put something good on instead :)
most accessible. enjoyed that more than the others including the new one. looks like they are not critically acclaimed unless they throw a load of shit on top of their songs. a lot of their stuff can be a bit annoying/wacky. my theory is that they could never write a straight ahead pop record. they kind of have a formula. it works for a lot of people but passes a bit over my head because it relies on sonic trickery rather than strong hooks/melodies. when it comes together correctly it can be impressive. i'm the only person in the world who doesn't like the panda bear album. listen to the first couple of adventures in stereo records and thats where all the ideas came from