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does it not
DLZ is amazing.
But DLZ and Lover's Day are two of my favourite tracks on there.
But I love the whole album anyway: especially when drunk.
it's just after that, things get messy
something just doesn't sit right
maybe the last 5 listens have been abandened on that second track, I really don't like that song. One day I will be in the mood for the whole thing again.
one of the highlights for me
Crying rules. The production and anttention to detail on that track is sunsurpassed on the rest of the record - from 3:06 onwards is heaven
it gets GOOD at Love Dog
I enjoy it every Friday night with a bourbon and coke.
Lover's Day is my favourite on the album. Pure class.
It's good, but nowhere near as good as the press is making it out to be. And you're right, the album does drag a bit towards the end.
they're capable of moments of pure magic, but they haven't consistently done it over a whole album yet
Shout me out and DLZ are both brilliant. Lovers Day is the weakest song on the album though, probably the only track I'd give less than an 8/10.
I must've listened to the album over 50 times and if anything it gets better with repeated listens and has got at all boring yet.
I really wish there was an edit post function on this site.
I think the last two tracks are amongst the best on the album. I think the middle is probably the weakest section overall.
Lover's Day is so good. The only crap song on it is Family Tree.
but the true test of a TVOTR fan's music taste is whether they like DLZ. If they do then I'm afraid they fail. Because it's fucking abysmal. Shout me out is pretty piss poor as well
FAO people who like TVOTR but have a generally rubbish taste in music: fuck off, you're stinking the place up
if it was by any other band i doubt people would be acclaiming it. i'm trying to think who it sounds like but i can't quite put my finger on who..
You're such an idiot
it's completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, because i'm merely expressing my opinion on a piece of music, and by extension my opinion on the people who like that piece of music. Like BLAUUURGH
go back to reading Cokemachineglow you dribbling chinstroker
people who like it = people who like shit music
I imagine you coming up to people at parties and saying, in the tones of John Major, "Excuse me sir, do you like the track DLZ off Dear Science by the band TV on the Radio?" and then furrowing your brow and putting a neat tick down on your clipboard as they answer.
It's utterly innocuous as a track. Neither the worst nor best. Just pretty good. Sounds like a lot of other stuff they've done. Family Tree is awful, why don't you get worked up about that instead?
whilst i think it's genuinely bad. A difference of opinion, or a foolproof way of judging someone's music taste? Or something i typed out when pissed up in the hope of getting a rise? You decide
and I'm sure that you know this, therefore you must be joking.
Log into your account, buy an MP3 album and get £3 off, and a load are £3. You enter "FREEMP3S" at the checkout for the reduction. I "bought" the Fleet Foxes album on my parents' account and the TV On The Radio album on mine. Anyhow, this means I'm now going to give it a listen and add my verdict.
I doubt I'll get any more albums via this means because I'm not sure I want to contribute to the devaluing of music still further, if that doesn't sound too wanky. But I'll take the free stuff anytime.
I never got into TVOTR, to me they sound like an average band trying too hard to be different. Halfway Home is about the only track I like.
and I must say I don't think the mountains and mountains of hip critical fawning helps - I predict a backlash soon!
But I think Halfway Home and Golden Age are absolutely brilliant tracks.
Is probably the most inaccurate term I've heard used in describing TVOTR. Their songs are so effortless at times, particularly the vocals and the way they fit in perfectly with everything else that's going on.
Does it not?
Listen to Cookie Mountain and tell me it's not way way better
just staid running along a flat plain of meh occasionaly hurderling a moment of genius before falling off the edge of a cliff at the point at around about the 3rd or 2nd to last track in where I either A) Stop caring or B) reach for Return To Cookie Mountain. It really isnt that good, Return To Cookie Mountain was infinatly better where as Dear Science is nothing more then a resounding MEH with moments of genius.
If something has moments of genius how can it amount to a resounding MEH? Maybe I could accept it if you said that it had 'genius' moments although a lot of it was a little underwhelming, but I don't think this is what people really mean. What were you expecting.. an album full of genius from start to finish? The MEHness you speak of isn't really there, it's in your head.. because of your unrealistic expectations fueled by the best parts. It's a great album and very consistent, with added moments of genius that make in even better.
This isn't a dig at you, it's just this feeling that I get when people criticise TVOTR and in particular Dear Science. Look no further than Desperate Youth for an album with a lot of MEH mixed in with moments of genius, without Staring At The Sun that album would struggle to make a 6/10 score. I still wouldn't call that album a resounding MEH because true moments of genius are hard to come by in music, most bands won't even manage a single one.. TVOTR however, seem to write many and in the end, suffer because of it.
P.S. I love RTCM aswell, I just think that Dear Science is slightly better, although they're obviously very different albums.
is that it all feels a bit flat, the are moments where its like 'o yea! thats what I want' but they seem to pretty much amount to nothing more or is nothing more then a glimpse.
It just always felt a bit flat for me, doesnt offer much in the way of emotion or response in any way for me. The way I see I could see it is the album is clearly not for me, I mean I dont dislike it but the is I dont feel the need to listen to it anymore. It just all seems a little bit flat to me where as Return To Cookie Mountain was constantly interesting.
I know this is simplifying it a little but maybe that's what people don't like about it. If you'd have told me that this release was a lot more mainstream sounding than RTCM, I would've had probably been disappointed (I didn't read anything about the album before I bought it) but to me at least, the songs are so well written that I don't care. Maybe there isn't as much depth to the music, RTCM was an excellent album for a very long time (I'd happily stick it on now). All I know is that after what must be at least 50 full plays of Dear science, I still love it. You won't find many albums better in terms of a great selelction of songs, there's enough variation to keep it interesting but I guess that TVOTR fans were always going to expect a lot and some didn't get quite what they wanted. There were people (i.e idiots) that thought TVOTR might write the greatest album since 'OK Computer' in terms of constant brilliance and even influence, realistically this was never going to happen.
Personally I like the second half of the record more than the first and I adore DLZ (which is INCREDIBLE live) and Lover's Day a lot a lot a lot.
Also the whole thing continues to be better than Cookie Mountain which IS still an amazing album. These are the facts.
that the album ends with DLZ, a song with absolutely no hope, and which claims everything must be destroyed and nothing is good. And then it really ends with Lovers Day, a pretty horny song about sex. Great, great way to end your political record.
by 'goes downhill' i don't mean that my favourite songs are in the first half, i mean the songs after 'love dog' are very poor, and there's a marked decline in quality. don't distort my statement. lol.
whereas RTCM I listened for ages and ages and consider it the last great record to be released.
DLZ AND LOVER'S DAY.
I don't think the concept of time has ever been so cruel to a record.
Don't get me wrong, i think it's good, but when i first heard it i was absolutely blown away - exclaiming it as 'the best record of 08'. I think given time to reflect, they are about 3 really good songs and the rest are just a little hit and miss.