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don't you think?
are songs without words and stuff like you know dance music counted as songwriting?
it's certainly a much looser form of songwriting, and often a lot more subtle. But it's more about the here and now, the constant enjoyable sound, the thing that's happening right now, whilst traditional songwriting is about something going through the rigid motions. It's more like something to be admired from afar.
I'm not realy a songy song kinda guy I'm really not arsed about lyrical content most of the time. It's very very rare lyrics relate to me and I think they are far to over rated in muisc. Give me some interesting soudns and textures anyday of teh week over words, every fucker speaks words... apart from the mutes.
but you want something looser, something a bit more expressionistic.
SONGWRITING IS THE ENEMY OF EXPRESSION
but more like for the sounds it makes rather than the things they are saying.
but yeah I think people shoe horn stuff into the regular verse chorus whatever structure instead of just doing there own thing.
A song has to be sung. An instrumental is a composition. Not a song.
not far from each other though hey
I've never really heard any dance music called compositions though, tracks maybe or tunes.
it's not something to be rated. Fuckin narc
it shits on trial and error emperor's-new-clothes bearded flannelshirted musicmaking - manipulating oscillators and suchlike.
tweak tweak wowwwow! bleeeeep bleeeep wooooo woooooo!
why don't you go write yourself a nice song? Here's an Am to get you started
that atp had some good bands playing covers. Well, not only covers but y'know, more than one. So you just have to really kick ass at covers. Or do the guitar solos with your mouth. That's what I learned
1) Ability to write good songs
2) Being a great singer
It's pretty fucking underrated at the moment.
and play some acid fried tones.
I'm gonna go buy a copy of it from Second Layer. It's so hazy and absorbing. Like the world has opened up into a huge lotus flower or some shit. I'm seeing paisley everywhere.
and maybe if on the last verse they repeated the first verse, but with a few words changed to alter the implication?
You can't separate the melody from the lyrics in that case. One depends on the other. No matter how you might think you are not listening to the words, you are.
C'mon. I've lost the ability to distinguish between songs with vocals and without these days.
I think it's about atmosphere, ambience, build up. That's a more 'classical' or 'orchestral' approach to music making probably, but that's what I tend to love right now. Of course I still love a huge riff with a dirty great hook, or a beat that makes your brain vibrate, or some nice plucked melody, but there's far more to songwriting than just a 'tune'.
i am quite highly rated
The difference lies between the world-class songwriters and the people that just got lucky.
with knowing what sounds to use for importance in making a good track. look at that x factor woman, a lot of people would say that's a brilliant track but wont listen to her version because it's all polished up, although i think its a shit song anyway. songwriting's importance is over-egged cause we like to think of music as art and the artist as more important than the performer i think. but my hallelujah thing falls down their because Buckley was coverin it... ahh balls.