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Apparently so http://drownedinsound.com/releases/13857/reviews/4135918
anybody who uses 'garbage' in a sentence cannot be taken seriously.
Brilliant album. Deserves the 10.
thatvoodoothatyoudo | 7 Jan '08, 14:03 | Reply
think we'll still be proven right about that one
A lot of that album gives me a headache though.
and remove all of the variables that have to coincide to make an album like this appear perfect to everyone.
So in summary. No.
But I'm not saying I'm right or wrong about it.
But you know, he asked.....up there ^
I use reviews for information more than anything - I rarely take the rating into account. And yeah I don't read them too much.
If anything Last FM recommendation radio is more influential on me than reviews.
Did you all have a meeting about it or something ;-)
on a scale of musical perfectioness the shit you give 10/10's probably a 5. But of course that's not as exciting as giving out 7,8 % 9's for just being able to play more than 3 chords.
because I'd lived with a previous edition since school, and really liked what they'd done with it for this update. I'd be VERY wary giving something I'd only had for a month ten. The last new-ish album I'd give a 10 to was of Montreal's Hissing Fauna, Are You The Destroyer?, and one one review I did of that around the time was a 4/5, takes a while for that stuff to really sink in. Certainly if you look at stuff Pitchfork's given 10.0 to a lot of it's reissues
There'll never be an album that everyone universally agrees is a 10.
at the end of the day a Travis b-sides album could 10/10 to someone
If you use 5 stars system, you aren't saying that giving an album 5/5 means it's perfect. It's not quite the same with it being out of 10 because there's much more leway, but you probably still aren't saying that 10/10 is the perfect record.
But using a percentage or decimalised scale out of 10, you are pretty much saying that full marks means an album is perfect.
are just for people who scan read reviews? It works well as if I saw a 10/10 review in a magazine I'd read the review straight away but ultimately marks are slightly pointless. Sometimes I write a review and give it say 6 which I'd say is an average album yet anything getting 5 would be a crap album. What's the difference between an 8 and a 9? It's a minefield.
I prefer to think of 10/10 review as an indication you really need to buy the album rather than it's perfect in every single way.
It's tricky when albums are really inconsistent in quality.
That's the way I view them too. 10/10 doesn't mean perfect, despite how it might seem.
It just means very bloody good, i.e, even if this isn't your kind of music at all, you couldn't help but like it unless you're a cock.
Yes, that's right, a cock.
If it's 'This is perfect', then no. If it's 'this completely blew me away in a way that very few records have done', then yes.
my ten or eleven or whatever favourite songs ever then it would be a 10/10. If it doesn't then it has to be less, as all albums I've heard up until have been.
Yes. It'd sit quite happily in the top 5 most important albums released since 1980. I can't even begin to imagine a musical climate without that album and its influence over the years. Well, I can. It'd be a diminished climate, for a start.
Without REM, and more specifically this album, there is no Daydream Nation. And modern alternative music would sound a whole load different. Fact.
The actual number at the end of the review doesn't matter. What does matter is that it's a stonking great album, packed to the gills with great tunes, a joy to listen to and really influential on lots of great bands. So if you haven't heard it, just get it!
This doesn;t necessarily mean the album in question is perfect - it just means that this album ranks among the top 10% of all albums you've ever heard - still quite a brave statement for a new record, but a pretty feasible requirement for something deserving full marks.
Also, if you decided 10/10 meant perfect, and therefore never gave a ten, then you'd effectively be rating something on a scale of 1-9, and could have the whole debate again except with giving something a nine being question.
Of course, we could all just scrap giving things numbers and go by what's actually written in the reviews... but that would go against our indie-boy statistical urges, wouldn't it?
there must be some tracks weaker than others or less brilliant than others)
but the thing is the idea of perfection against which to measure would be a prerequisite.......if some music just ticked all the boxes that required it to be perfect it still doesnt mean it will be the song that you love the most.
some songs are so good beyond how good you believed that they could be, that you fall in love with them.....it is no longer you judging or mesuring the song, but the song whisks you off your feet and carries you over the threashold.....it is better than perfect if you like, your emotion loves it more than your rational self says that you should like a perfect song.......#/10's come from rational selves loving a song is emotional and is beyond rational perhaps.....so because people wish to reduce that which cannot be quantified into an inappropriate measuring glass people give 10/10 cos to give less would be an affront to their emotion
....can out on the same day in 1997 and there were 10/10 reviews in nme for both albums and i distincly remember thinking L&GWAFIS isn't as good as electic mainline and OK Computer isn't as good as the bends.
Ever since 10/10 review have meant nothing to me and have actually been offputting - if it isn't THE BEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME then its going to be a bit disappointing isn't it?
On the Beach
well kinda, in the end the score doesn't mean very much it's just someone's opinion on it that you can either agree or disagree with. I would give a ten to something completly diffrent to someone else. So people giving any score is nice and handy for like 5 mins before you listen to the album your self and make up your own mind.
a 10/10, but I have a biased opinion on the matter.
when referring to meet me in st louis' first album up until then it did not exist