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quite right too:
most of the stuff he spouts out he's mostly joking
by the cure was. They should play that on there tour atm.
Set List: Black Sunshine (Thursday)
“Everybody Come Clap Your Hands”
“Once Upon A Time”
“Again, Again, Again (The Crux)”
“The Rose March”
“Bullet With Butterfly Wings”
“The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning”
“Heavy Metal Machine”
“Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun”
“We Only Come Out At Night”
“Everything Is Beautiful”
Set List: White Crosses (Friday)
“Cupid de Locke”
“I of the Mourning”
“Song For A Son”
“Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness”
“As Rome Burns”
“The Sound Of Silence”
“Little Red Riding Hood”
“The March Hare”
“The March Hare (Reprise)”
“Age of Innocence”
“That’s The Way (My Love Is)”
“I Am One, Part 2?
They could throw out half the shite out of the sets and just left in all the pre machina 2 stuff it'd be pretty good I think
Errr, play some songs. That'll be fine.
Preferably without the lectures....
That video is surprisingly embarrassing....
Saw the 'reunion' three times over the last year or so (twice at festivals), SP are my favourite all-time band... Both times even though so many parts of the set were greats like Hummer, Porcelina, Mayonaise, Ava Adore etc and rare treats like Starla and Drown, they always had these 40+ minute long runs through new (shite) material and would loose the crowd completly, then act all offended by the lack of enthusiasm
The only reason I'd ever go again is if they were to do a Don't Look Back type show and cut out the wank
a two night thing is just... uuurgh... overkill though. It achieves what they did at the O2 in february over two nights, play some of the hits but confound many by odd cover versions and extended plod prog goth versions of newer songs - and they were quite restrained at that show!
Also worth noting on this tour they are a nine piece band a la foo fighters last tour, so on more than one occasion for no reason it'll sound like a mariachi horn section has invaded the stage. Didn't do it for me. Again, this is a brave experiment in trying to do something live that possibly hasn't lived up to its full potential. I'd never expect Billy to just churn out the hitsbut I don't really see the purpose of trotting out over an album's worth of new material that people haven't heard and doing ridiculously obscure die-hards only stull like I Am One pt II as a show closer, and sticking with the set night after night. Even a megastar like Prince would be fucking with his setlist every night at his O2 residency!
I think Billy is becoming a b-grade axl rose who WANTS to be misunderstood as it is his way of showing what a genius he thinks he is. It'll be interesting to see how long the fans stick around while this sort of behaviour lasts...
and that article is the first i've ever heard of I Am One Pt2...
I Am Two?
This man is painfully self-obsessed. Most of us learn fairly early on that natural as it is, it ain't good to worry too much about why people do or don't like us, right? So what went wrong for Billy?
And please, all that Sarah Palin stuff - just gratuitously juvenile for a 41-year old. That's right, Billy Corgan is 41. Shouldn't he just buy a sports car and take tennis lessons and spare the rest of us his mid-life crisis?
makes me want everything in the world to die. just stop music, stop people...just stop it all, lets be done with it.
So i'm not very dissapointed in this so called musical hero making a further tit of himself, maybe he should resume his former role of being Courtney Loves bitch so she can slap him like one
and Billy Corgan and his entourage of jumped up paeans were without doubt the biggest nobs of all the years Ive worked there. He got a blacked out Chrysler to take him the 30 second walk from his personal dressing room to the stage and then made his body guards search anyone for phones just in case they might take a pictures during the show. To say the guy has lost grip on reality is an understatement...
but I think most pumpkin fans would expect exactly this kind of stuff, its what they have always done, I saw them 3 times back in the day when they were my favourite band and they were just as bad
the set list or the kiss ass crowd saying "we love you billy". Even the guy who puts his hand up wusses out from saying what he thinks once he has the mike.
I meet him at a Jazz - Bulls play off game one year and he was a prick.
melon chollie is pretty awesome...but yeah agreed he is a complete tit
they rocked. Go onstage, play "Cherub Rock", "Today", "Tonight, Tonight", "Bullet With The Butterfly Wings", "Disarm" and all their other great songs. He might talk, say "yeah [city] you're the best crowd ever!" Maybe say some things about politics or something while the band did whatever.
this never happened.
it was the only time I saw them play a song of a past album normally without some rubbish reinterpretation, I remember seeing them post adore pre machina half way through ava adore 'count starts' line billy just started counting, im certain they have always been rubbish live
the sludged up versions of Disarm and.. um.. something else on there are ace!
i have a bunch of bootlegs from the Siamese Dream / Mellon Collie tours and they're thrilling listens, even the 30-minute Silverfuck jams. i wish i'd seen them then. i had to make do with Reading last year, which i still really enjoyed but largely because they did Drown into Stand Inside Your Love and i defy anyone not to enjoy that.
I could have seen them on the mellon collie tour but my friends were rubbish and prefered the likes of nofx and rancid, first time I saw them was doing an adore preview at shepards bush by which time they'd lost it, I think mtv2 documented its badness, think they played a calypso version of 1979, i've tried to shield myself from their reunion, seeing drown would be good though
earphoria is the "soundtrack", it's just the music though, no talking. i think the "stoppen ze throwing ze cups ze" bit is gone as well. it was a promo-only release originally and got a full release when vieuphoria was put on DVD. i was working at Virgin at the time so i got both for a silly low amount of money.
(i always get a bit bummed out watching vieuphoria, the bit with james iha and bugg is so cute and yet that dog is probably long dead now)
i've heard of that show! it's pretty legendary i think. the best thing about the current bout of miffling is that it's managed to whitewash away all the complaints of the Machina-era and made that part of the "classic" Pumpkins era. lolz.
@ manchester academy 93 or 94? i forget on the siamese drea mtour and it was immense, the best time i ever sawthem, they were ok on there 'farewell' tour too played a lot of mellon collie stuff but every time ive seen them on this re-uinion thing its been mediocre to say the least, its just not as exciting as it was
or is the funniest bit that kazoo song they're doing at the start? What the hell is that?? As for Billy Corgan, well, nearly 15 years ago he was having a sense of humour bypass over Range Life, so the mind boggles at how much the ego will have expanded since then...