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Because it's shit.
I'm not getting all the hate at all, its really nice stripped back indie played really well. I do love jazz though so the noodeling is right up my street.
no effects really just good guitar bass and drums its a really stripped back sound. The mellodie is really intricut and all that sure.
it's always v busy
no other instruments, most of the time its one guitar, no distortion just them and their instruments playing really intricut stuff. I don't mean it's simple music, its just like a stripped back minimal setup.
Having listened extensively to this album, Owls, American Football, Make Believe, Don Cabbalero, Cap'n Jazz, Joan of Arc, Algernon Cadwallader and Maps & Atlases I feel I understand how this band is positioned.
The tracks I like no one else seems to have noticed.
I have not actually read a fully informed review of this album, but the one which resembles closest my opnion is that of Mike Diver
should try driving 500 miles with a bi-polar friend on a high chattering away while you are both ostensibly listening to this album.
When I was finally by myself with Animals I was driving under a star light sky on the A686 from Newcastle to Penrith, one of those lovely slow roads; it was so much rewording to give it proper attention.
This music needs a kind of RAM upgrade to absorb it and de-programme it. It is fairly off-putting without the requisite set of expectations and anticipations. Listen to this after some of the influences and I do think you appreciate it more.
Still I am yet to meet another soul who likes all of those, so I guess we are in specialist market here. They all seem to have left.
The appreciation here may be disparate, but it seems to be massive in the Americas. TTNG are massive in Chile, pity all the plays there are from leaks (and not from me). One thing I will never understand is how you why record releases aren't syncronised across the continents.
anyone who finds this album complex / busy / challenging needs to stop listening to simplistic shit. It's not exactly Storm and Stress or Don Cab.
TTNG massive in Chile? I've been to Chile recently and didn't notice a TTNG presence; I wasn't really looking, but I really doubt they're 'massive' in Chile.
i love Owls, American Football, Make Believe, Don Cabbalero, Cap'n Jazz, Joan of Arc, Algernon Cadwallader and Maps & Atlases.
i wouldn't consider any of those simplistic, therefore i wouldnt consider This Town Needs Guns simplistic
i don't get the arguement.
plenty of people like bands like JoA, cap'n jazz, algernon cadwallader and maps and atlases. i like these bands. a lot. you aren't alone in this. the reason people don't like the this town needs guns record is because at times it is less than the sum of its parts. whats great in those bands is that for all the 'widdling' there are amazing melodies. i don't think there are such great melodies on this record. if i were to be picky i'd also say that the vocals are a little restrained and detached for my tastes.
in short, people who think the record was a misstep don't think that because they're uninformed. they think so because they don't think it does what it is doing that well.
for the record, i quite like this town needs guns. but i don't think this record is all it could have been.
I adore this band.
I love the label and I like Cap'n jazz not a fan of American Football, should I shell out my hard earned cash on it or is their something else I should get instead
I definitely reckon it's worth it, especially if you liked the EP, Want to Come Back... is one of my favourite songs. The vocal seems to be getting mentioned a fair bit, it's genuinely one of my favourite things about them.
why dont add some supporting evidence fo gods sake.
its really good for what it is, really enjoyable and interesting to listen to. it just doesnt have much longevity in it, and i dont think theres anywhere they can really go from it. but its not shit.
it isn't simplistic, but it's not too complicated either. The album epitomises their sound, but IMO too much. There needs to be another song or two like 'Elk' or 'Zebra' (ridiculously beautiful). That said, 'Baboon' is the best song I've heard all year, easily. I'm a real big fan of Stewart's vocals - I wasn't before this album really.
So, to conclude (!) it's definitely better than the reviews I've seen of it, but not as good as it should've been.
and I would kill to be able to play guitar like that. Stunning stuff.
is the phrasing of the vocals; quite often one note is held over the top of lots of interesting choppy/rhythmic ideas, which tends to undermine the clever time signatures. although its a tired comparison at this point, its a valid one, and with the kinsella bands the vocals tended to fit in a lot more rhythmically and tended to match or compliment the mathiness (for lack of a better word). A more recent point of reference I guess would be Meet Me In St Louis; on the ep in particular the vocals were phrased and paced PERFECTLY. too often the vocals seem at odds with the energy of the instrumentation, lots of long drawn out notes whilst the guitars and drums are cutting really fast odd time signatures, and despite the singing being note perfect, it detracts a bit for me. I still think they're a good band who'll produce something excellent at some point, but this album isn't quite it. Not a 5/10, but maybe a 7/10, and they're still good times live.
oh and they could make the bass more prominent in the mix too
They acknowledge it, but it's not the most important thing, which it is in a band like MMiSL, where the vocals are integrated (as lazerlife said) perfectly with the surrounding sound. Possibly.
a tear falls from my face.
but I like what I've heard of them so far, the melodies are amongst the best I've heard in ages and I kind of like the quirkiness of the vocal interplay.
I really like it personally, can't be arsed to get into a stupid argument debating the point though.
but its not great either. I really miss the distortion and effects. With animals all the songs sound pretty much the same. Its just such a step down from the earlier stuff (the Japanese release is a 10/10 album).
b) No it isn't.
Also, everyone I've spoken to about This Town Needs Guns really likes them. And I like them. In conclusion, This Town Needs Guns are ace. I never really listen to 'Animals' all the way through, though, I just listen to specific tracks. This is because, in fairness to it, the order of the tracks is kind of flawed. Probably. I've not actually *tried* to see if I can do any better.
because a) I'm lame and b) because Bloc Party don't know how to put the right tracks on the right album in the right order.
I often think I could 'fix' so many albums by re-jigging the running order. I love making my own best-of's for bands and spending ridiculous amounts of time determining the perfect running order.
it's a fulltime job making different compilations of RA for different people.
And yes, I am determined to mention the bastard in every other post.
for the White Stripes. And Oasis. Limp Bizkit did a pretty good job on their own so I'll leave them alone. Glad I'm not the only one who has these thoughts!
I've seen two reviews of the album - the one on here, which said it was shit, and one someone linked to on here (from Collective), which also said it was shit. So out of all the reviews I've seen, 100% have said it's shit. As far as I'm concerned, it's be universally slated. And perhaps more pertinently, people seem to be making a massive deal out of the fact these reviews are saying it's shit, so I assumed that *all* reviews have been saying it's shit and people aren't just being whiny babies. But clearly that isn't really the point of the thread anyway, so like I said, I'm not really sure why people are getting so hung up on it. The point of the thread is that This Town Needs Guns are shit.
im listening to this town needs gun now