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slightly... oct 27 now, in deluxe set. nice, nice.
Plus: www.shredyrface.com now ACTIVE.
HEY WHILE YR THERE LOOK AT THE OTHER NEWS YO...
Don't worry - I'm not going to bombard these boards with JAGgery. Only when it might be of interest/not covered on DiS already.
I'm one of YOU now, board people.
He is one of us. ONE OF US
what is it then?
review alert http://www.audioscribbler.co.uk/reviews/4552
but they were very keen to differentiate in their last myspace bulletin.
And I've listened to it once. Yeah...
It's worth the wait. It's like the band have just gone "shit, we're really fucking good" and then made a record to reflect it.
then there is an interview with the singer in his bedroom and there's a kenickie poster in the background.
consistent messaging throughout.
If nothing else, the title track is like the best thing I've been playing over and over all day.
is painfully indie.
And it sounds a bit like they've decided it's not good enough to be their second album, so they're trying to pretend it doesn't count as an actual album.
Maybe i'm being overly cynical though. I'll still get it.
it's pretty long though.
Here's the bit about the album (sorry, record):
WE ARE BEAUTIFUL, WE ARE DOOMED
Some news and notes on 'WAB,WAD':
- 27th October sees the release of what the majority of you have decided to call our 'second' 'album'. Not that we ever have mind you.
- There will be no singles released from this RECORD.
- This RELEASE is going to be limited. There will be one, worldwide run of CDs, and then it will be out of print. Done with.
- This is what the cover looks like.
-The package comes in a 14cm by 19cm by 2.5cm two-piece card box. That makes it rectangular in shape.
- The CD will be accompanied by a self-made DVD documentary of our weekend at Oya festival and SummerSonic in August of this year.
- It also includes a 30+ page 'zine, including the record's lyrics and contributions by artists including Xiu Xiu, Grandaddy, Tender Forever, Menomena, Parenthetical Girls and Paul Heaton, based around the title 'We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed'.
- Also each box comes with an exclusive poster drawn for us by Jeffrey Brown.
if the band don't want it to be considered an album, then it isn't.
its just them splitting hairs.
if they wanted to call it that, it'd have to be on vinyl
"The package comes in a 14cm by 19cm by 2.5cm two-piece card box. That makes it rectangular in shape."
no it doesn't. Rectangles are 2D.
maths burn or what!
Lets see Los Campesinos! come back from that!
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is the dumbest fucking thing ever. they have such a godawful attitude, which doesn't seem to have changed since they did that track by track here and said things like "I know it's a stupidly long title, but it acts as a good test to see which people are morons, depending on whether they reference it as being 'Fall Out Boy-esque' or 'Ballboy or Ten Grand-esque'" As if the general populace are such IDIOTS to call a 10 track follow up release a second album, fnar fnar fnar those stupid peons!
not to mention the RECORD/RELEASE/NOTALBUM is really mediocre and the only progression they've made since the first album is learning how to reduce the treble in the mastering stage.
AND RECORD MEANS SOMETHING ON VINYL.
you shouldn't let yourself get so worked up about it. are there not more things to be worried about? WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ECONOMIC CRISIS, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!!!!!1
its just funny when they are getting all pedantic over the use of 'album' to describe 10 songs released on a CD. and then choose a term which is actually incorrect for what it is
a cd is just as much a 'record' as a vinyl pressing. a 'record' is just a collection of data, if we're going to be REALLY pedantic.
the thing is, i think they're just putting emphasis on the fact that it's not necessarily a 'second album' because it's not intended to be that which normally typifies a sophomore record - perhaps a bit of a change in direction, a maturation of technique, I DON'T KNOW. i think the whole idea behind it is that they've been playing the same twelve or so songs for the last couple of years and thought they'd sit down and record some more stuff so that the people that go to their shows/listen to their music could have something new. it's got to be really fucking boring playing the same songs every night when you tour rather a lot. new stuff is nice.
its not very good; they know its not very good. they're making excuses for it.
if they didn't want it to seem like a second album they shouldn't have released it through all the same channels as an album. maybe they should have cut out the chaff and done an ep, or released it as a tour cd, or put it on the internet for free. its a bit ridiculous to say its NOT a second album, when it is one by all you'd define one as. and i always thought record was a synonym for vinyl
you can justify it however you like, but to all intents and purposes if you release 10 songs on a CD, its an album.
but this might just break all grounds for argumentative stupidity.
people have been using the word 'record' to mean 'album' for ages.
things what i don't like: everyone getting angry over album/not album DONOTCARE, a tour WEBSITE
whatever, i don't care as long as the fit ones are still in the band
but am i the only one to see how its weird for them to get annoyed about people calling it an album, when its a logical thing to do, then calling it something which technically is also inaccurate for what it is? AM I?!
but i'd rather roll over and forget about it than try to justify it like some have in this thread. bleh, ten tracks on one release usually equals an album. it's absurd but whatever.
i just never like giving in
i'm not discussing whether it's any good or not, merely the reasoning behind calling it a 'record'. everyone's completely entitled to an opinion on if they like it or not.
and i don't really think a box with a cd, dvd, poster and 'zine, limited to one run worldwide, written with the intention of having no singles released from it is a regular move for a 'second album'.
as for 'they should have put it on the internet for free', well, i think it's fair to say that a load of you care not whether it's released physically for a price or not, as you've obviously downloaded a leak.
i don't see what's so wrong with wanting to record new stuff for their fans. and if you're not a fan, then just ignore it. unless you get yourself all excited like this over every band you don't like, which i very much doubt.
it's their piece of music. I really like it, but who gives a shit.
I do though find all the los camp backlash on this thread (and elsewhere on the forum) confusing. Sure, everyones got opinions but this band seems to attract the a similar volume of hate and vitriol as they do praise. Which is weird to me. A case of, 'like, are we listening to same music!'. But I digress.
Anyway, I'm glad to be 'love los camp' side of the fence. It's a pretty happy place.
its pretty difficult to support anything they do when they seem like such douches. its the bizarre sense of superiority they put across when they say things like "- 27th October sees the release of what the majority of you have decided to call our 'second' 'album'. Not that we ever have mind you." as if its oh-so-obvious that its not an "album" and the unwashed plebs are clearly morons for jumping to that conclusion. just doesn't wash very well with me
there has always been something not-very-likeable about this band, and I don't just mean musically.
things to argue about.
to get upset about what format a band choose to release something on, or what they call it when it's not something exposed to you, isn't so massive rad.
they can release it however they like, on whatever they like, but it doesnt mean they can be big sillies about it
"Entering the studio with the plan to record a new EP, the band were so happy with the 10 tracks they recorded they wanted to put them out immediately."
and, correctly, called it an album.
what it is that they ultimately create.
they've done some more songs that are pretty much like those on the first album, and that they consider to be good enough to be released as well. Only it's too soon for them to have progressed to second-album level. So this is just an interim release. Or something.
but skipping the stage of actually releasing the songs as bsides.
not with bsides being used perjoritvely
but I'm guessing they'll be two really good songs and a fair amount of filler.
And it's pretty short for an album at 30 mins or so.
who cares. It will be rubbish. On another note though, possibly the worst band I've ever seen live, in my life, ever, ever.... ever.
and they were pretty good live - a lot of fun at least. Then I saw them supporting Les Savy Fav at the Astoria and they were rubbish, but I got the impression that was a bit of a bad day.
I read a review of the Pitchfork ATP last year and it said the singer looked like he was on the point of tears, such was his emotion. They've got that whole indie-ATP-pack a 'zine' with our record-that-isn't-a-record thing completely squared away from the looks of things. bravo!
and I enjoyed them lots. It was a very fun gig, everyone was dancing. I think they work better live than on record.
i assume this delay means they won't have this for sale on the tour though, which sux.
although may be a blessing because I'll be hitting the merch table for stuff from all three bands so it'll be a pretty expensive night.
but my God...why care what anyone calls the collection of songs you are releasing?