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are universally boring boyfriends"
so i wouldn't know
apart from boys who play this guitar
which is a Moog
a guitar. Which is a Moog
that pisses all over Matt Bellamy's thing
plus, that guitar looks disgusting. couldn't they have made it in a sexy style? and, y'know, not sound shit?
Ive got nothing to do at work and now I can read the manual for my MoogerFooger Low Pass Filter.
word on the street is that i therefore am a god when it comes to women
I know that there's a sub-section of them that are incredibly boring party guests though.
It's not always guitarists' fault though.
I've been at parties where people have stuck a guitar in my hand and told me to give 'em a song. And then insisted when I've tried to get out of it. And then demanded another even though everyone else in the room (including me) clearly just wants to relax and talk and not listen to some fucker play the guitar.
The problem is that as soon as you put it down some other boring arsehole completely misjudges the mood, picks it up and then plays every cover he knows (including the dead serious ones and the technically-complex-but-no-fun-to-listen-to ones) and kills the mood of the fucking party.
Basically everyone who holds a house party should clear all musical instruments out first.
open the acoustic though. It invariably ends in wobbly renditions of Morcheeba songs. I'd rather just have some banter.
whilst accompanying myself on guitar, epic poet style
It's fine if people want to get hammered and have sex - they do that whilst listening to the guitar.
I go to parties to have interesting conversations with new people. I hate having to stop talking 'cos Mr Egotistical Fuckwit is demanding our attention to listen to his substandard Free Bird cover.
is totally correct. I hate this too. THANKYOU.
If there's one room it's a no-no, but normally I find there are different rooms in each party and there's usually a quiet one where someone's happy to play guitar.
Having said that in these situations it's usually a mate of mine playing his own stuff that's pretty moody and quiet, in between him smoking joints, so it's a nice relaxing background to conversation.
There are no hard and fast rules about guitars at parties.
It's just when a room where you're having a conversation becomes a room where some egotist is hogging you're attention.
I mean, to be fair, I've done proper gigs at house parties before and that always worked out fine, but then people were there expecting someone to do a gig and there was another room they could go to if they didn't want that. And I've been to parties with an allocated "music room" too which you could either go in or avoid and that was fine as well.
no one wants to hear you play wonderwall.
whenever i see a guitar at a party, i always leave the room so that i can't pick it up and start playing. as i said, it's a big no.
The only people who enjoy it are the ones playing it themselves. And maybe the ones who find it an interesting novelty for one or at most two songs. But then it quickly outstays it's welcome.
Obviously it's fine to play guitar not in front of people.
The singalong angle works about for about two songs and then everyone ALWAYS gets bored and is ALWAYS too polite to say so and the guitarist is ALWAYS too wrapped up in what they're doing to realise they're killing the mood.
But admittedly a few shit ones too.
The thing is I quite like being in rooms with fuckloads of new people I don't know - I probably prefer meeting new people (admittedly especially - but not only - new female people) than I do spending a night with established friends.
It clearly isn't.
Anyone who knows me would never, ever accuse me as someone who makes moves.
I happen to love conversation for conversation's sake and, much as I enjoy spending time with friends, I make plenty of time to do that anyway and it's nice to have parties as an environment where you can talk to new people.
You've misjudged me so spectacularly it's bizarre.
It depends if you're a good conversationalist. It's not by any means impossible to have a meaningful conversation within 3 minutes of getting talking to a complete stranger.
Paragraph 2: I prefer the possibilities of the future than the memories of the past.
Paragraph 3: Credibility isn't an issue. But I can have a conversation with someone without it affecting anyone else. Someone playing a guitar in a roomful of people who'd sooner be talking is entertaining himself at the expense of everyone else's enjoyment.
I'm not saying my agenda is more important, just that I'm not boring the fuck out of everyone in the room.
Of course every conversation with a stranger isn't meaningful. I'm just saying it's possible to have meaningful conversations with complete strangers. I'm baffled how you seem confused on this point.
Again, I'm not sure how it sound more "me me me" than being the boring guitar guy at a party.
I'm just saying I'm not a boring selfish egotist. There's a key difference.
But you're implying a false logic here. just 'cos many egotists don't think they're boring but are, it doesn't necessarily follow that all egotists are boring.
I'm just yet to witness it.
Actually that isn't strictly true. I've been to parties before where the sole intention is to sit around and play songs to each other on guitar. And next month I'm gonna play at a house party I've been invited to play at. It's just impromptu unwanted entertainment that rarely entertains.
I'm starting to think you've completely misunderstood everythng I've said.
Why are we being restricted to a three minute conversation? Why's the music necessarily going to be loud? Why does an egotistical cunt with a guitar make it any less about getting wasted?
You're assuming entirely wrongly.
As a general rule, conversation with people is more interesting than a person on a guitar. I tend to find I often have interesting conversations with new people at parties. I enjoy conversations with friends but it's good to talk to new people too.
My point about the future has nothing to do with parties being the future (you know that and you're being flippant). It's just that, whilst you have friends and shared memories friendship brings, every new person you meet brings future possibilities of new experiences in the future. And the possibility of new experiences excites me more than reminiscing over past memories. I'm aware that sounds incredibly arsey but I couldn't think of a better way of putting it.
I'd agree the best plan is to have an allocated room for people to play guitar/listen to person playing guitar.
My frustration's more with people imposing their guitar-playing on people than anything else.
I find it slightly sad and depressing that you assume someone who enjoys talking to women would only do so with one thing in mind.
Believe it or not, it's possible to enjoy women's company without trying to sleep with them.
Most of my social life resolves around gigging and sadly the audiences/bands at indie gigs are predominantly male. So, aside from work (and I don't work in a job where I have a huge amount in common with my colleagues) I don't tend to get to speak to women as often as I do men.
It makes no odds to me whatsoever whether or not you believe what I'm saying. It's still true regardless.
You're continually calling me a selfish egotist.
and someone gets out a guitar, do this
but the delayed build-up to it makes it work brilliantly...
But every guitarist in history is a pain in the arse during band rehearsals though. All they have to do is spend a short period of time with the thing around their necks and not play the fuckers until necessary but can they do it? Fuck no.
Instead you end up taking three quarters of an hour to get going 'cos the guitarist is still noodling on the thing and you can't get a word in edgeways.
and one at the wall probably
you should get used to being in command of those switches Paul
i completely agree. i have three of those such individuals to deal with in my band. three!
But then I'm the guitarist and the vocalist.
Kind of a bit mclusky a bit sonic youth a bit Shellac.
The + will break that link so you'll have to actually cut and paste if you want to listen.
Um, very little noodling really. I try to let the bassist and drummer do all the work and I just float stuff on top when I can.
We like to try to keep songs shorter. We recently knocked 45 seconds off a couple that were barely reaching 3 mins.
point proved wrong!