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...do you have any reason to feel bad if you've moved on and asked someone else?
but no, basically
As I see it, if a band doesn't get back to you for ten days, you're wasting your time on them. Even if they get back to you eventually, it's fairly unprofessional of them. If they can't reply within ten days of doing the gig, are they going to be reliable when it comes to the all the other things along the way? (promotion, soundchecks, biogs, etc etc).
If they get all arsey about it, send em my way. I'll tell em what's what.
If they can't reply within ten days of being told about the gig
you get my point.
And said to email him the "full details" and he'll try and sort something out. So they've still not actually answered yes or no.
I guess the thing is I tend to worry when bands refer me to managers in general (particularly as we're not by any means talking about a big-name band here) and, coupled with the whole "ten days before I get any kind of response" thing I'm starting to feel they're gonna me more trouble than they're worth.
Especially as they're gonna come from some way away and so I'll need to sort some expense thing out with 'em anyway and I've realised what I want to run is a cheap-as-possible stress-free night with bands that'll be happy just to split the door equally between 'em...
sounds like a "get out, quick" scenario, to me.
I'll message the manager back and tell him I've got someone else.
Maybe I'll leave it 10 days first...
I have just found out the band are signed to a reasonably reputable record label and are probably doing a bit better for 'emsleves than I realised.
Which does worry me that they may ask for a set fee but I s'pose at least justifies 'em having a manager.
what is the name of the band?
Just 'cos I don't know the full circumstances and I don't want it to look like I'm publicly slagging off a band.
i respect that.
with a double-sharp accidental on the C (but not in the key sig)
the latest DiS-ism, or is the software screwing up?
I've seen a few of these lately and don't want to blow indie points by not being in on the joke.
I just realised I could have been compounding my error by not posting that in some random thread.
I believe in contract law, offers can be rescinded at any time before the other party accepts. Counteroffers also dissolve the original offer. So anyway, send them a note and tell them, "ya snoozed, ya losed."
(3 days seems reasonable to me)
Only because I REALLY want them to play. LIKE, REALLY.
And I trust them and their slacker aesthetic that means they've probably got other shit to do, and shit :)
So you've got time to wait. I've got to write a press blurb for this gig within the next week so need to get a line-up sorted ASAP...
You're a busy man Paul, you can't take this shit.
what the situation is and that you need to know by X day/time or its o-v-e-r
Unless they've been on holiday, or in a collective coma.
sometimes it's cos they've got the possibility of doing a tour as support to someone and they don't wanna say 'yes' to you and then have to pull out...but i guess they should say 'please can you hold this date for a week or so we're not sure if we can do it or not...'
and then at least you know they're interested...
sack 'em off. Sound too flakey and would prob. cancel at some point.
I've put on too many bands too put up with any bull, seriously learn from my mistakes otherwise you'll end up with an obese dude with a green acoustic guitar singing eagle eye cherry covers at the last minute (for example lol)
Also, be careful with the rider otherwise those bastards take the piss. I don't care if you're from Chicago and you're playing my living room, you aint getting white towels, you're a punk band fer chrissake!
/ rant over
generally come out of the band's fee?
anyway, its the manager who is obviously being rubbish. only hang on for them if they are really good, will bring attention to the night and are able to draw a crowd (and i don't mean bringing their own, i mean enough people will be interested in seeing them at your night with a good chance of people coming)
They're pretty good; they've got a minor industry buzz but I doubt they'll draw a crowd or much attention to the gig and I'd sooner put on bands that aren't too arsed about set fees (though I'd obviously share any profit I made) 'cos then I can keep entry cheap and not get stressed about breaking even.
that's why they're called 'riders'.
when you do the percentage split
I mean if they'd got back to me and said "we'll let you know" that'd be another matter but 10 days without a response isn't too great.
I mean the thing as well is I'm not by any means (and don't aspire to be) a professional promoter. I'm a guy in a band who occasionally finds it entertaining to put on his own gigs and wants a friendly atmosphere, a stress-free experience and to deal bands that play for the love of playing.
I'd understand if I was dealing with big career-orientated bands things'd be different but I don't really wanna deal with those bands when I'm promoting. In this instance this band, although clearly having a few useful people around 'em, aren't by any means well-known (they're probably even less well-known than my band are!) and I just feel when managers are getting involved and there's long delays getting back with answers and stuff that it's just too much hassle for gigs that I'm putting on for love rather than money.
answered your own question. good luck with the gig!