I think Amy Winehouse may die soon
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1682608.ece
She looks like a corpse here, and the third picture in the slideshow is pretty much mortifying
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seriously this is going to far now...i'm pretty cold to this sort of thing normally but we are literally just seeing a young woman killing herself..do newspapers have to keep documenting it?
It's gone all quite on the press front
so they probibly think oh shit we should leave her alone now...
I wish her well it's not good what she is going thru.
She is a fucking mess
These ones are even worse
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1054873/Ravaged-Amy-Winehouse-gives-best-snarl-eve-25th-birthday.html
I pity her, I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't last much longer
*won't
those are pretty awful
LOL
All these politically correct Lefties who want to downgrade drugs should take a look at this awful picture of Amy Winehouse to remind themselves just what drugs can do to you. What a silly girl she is. She has thrown all that talent away.
- Ann Morgan, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, 12/9/2008 11:29
Up the Daily Mail!
If by 'downgrading' drugs
you mean legalising, that would be to cut crime rates, not aid people's addictions.
lets legalise murder then too
and cut crime rates even more
the difference is....
harming yourself and harming others.
also, by "cut crime rates"
I think tom_edwards meant legalising drugs would cut crime associated with the high cost of obtaining drugs, not the actual taking of the drugs themselves.
still a stupid idea
making drugs available basically says they're okay to use, which they're not
why not ?
.
because drugs are bad mmmkay
Lots of things are bad.
In fact, ANYTHING is bad in too large doses. Should chocolate cake be banned because so many people are obese ?
Or maybe people should be free to decide what they want to put in their own bodies, rather than the state.
LOL
I like how you used a south park reference that is in an episode that's VERY pro-drug legalisation.
So,
there's a difference between having legalised cannabis and legalised alcohol?
Alcohol can do this to a person just as easily as most drugs can. The only reason alcohol is because it has become so ingrained in society.
I didn't say anything about alcohol
I agree with what you just said, but that doesn't make it right to legalise weed still
drugs
are okay to use. so is opting out of the drugs world.
alcohol is legal but people still know the risks.
nothing is good when you go beyond moderation, even bananas.
Do you know anything
about how various substances came to be prohibited in our country in the first place? Or about society before these substances were proscribed? Or about the countries where prohibition has been abandoned, and how that's gone?
No?
Well maybe do some research before you come here with your ignorant "Drugs Are Bad" rhetoric. Are you even capable of thinking for yourself?
Wonderful
"Even Bananas"
BONGOED ZOMBIE
She's gone. NEXT!
hey, we've all been there
oh dear
someone needs to sit her down and make her watch requiem for a dream, half nelson and trainspotting.
drugz ruin lives, films told me.
Who cares.
There's actually real news happening all over the world. Real tragedies etc.
do you ever say anything slightly positive?
He just did
He told us to forget about pointlessness posing as news and focus on actual news that affects our lives. What's more positive than that?
kittens
its kinda
stating the obviouse that there isother stuff going on in the world though.
I mean this is a thrad about this not everything else...
It doesn't mean we care any less about worl issues.
that person just winds me up they are always moaning and grumpy they well need to grow up heheh
You need to make sense
Me no read you good.
my keyboard sucks
and I have had some beers
just focus less
and you might get it
its not that hard.
Lolololololololoooool
beer
I can read it fine though
:)
^^^
This.
The more column inches dedicated to this worthless smack head, the less dedicated to actually informing people of real events. Not that of course anybody who reads the Sun would be interested or able to comprehend anything like that.
there has been better smack heads
your right.
This thread features people
posting "news" articles from the Daily Mail and The Sun. That says it all really.
those papers
suck big time your right
you gota think though its mad what she is putting her self thru and its really mad the amount of shit that gets printed on her.
She is on telly now and is lookin alright to be honest heheh
for her anyway
Its seems enevitable that she'll kark it soon.
She looks like such a ghoul in those pictures. Its a shame but will no doubt secure her immortality in the annuls of musical history. I said 'annuls'!
yes, also
if i stuck a pair of novelty googly eyes on a sanitary-towel bin it would look good, for a sanitary-towel bin
lol
The papers should desert her
When she see's the snappers have gone, she might start getting real. I think she associates getting fucked with keeping her profile up in the papers.
Amy's a mess - but so is this whole celebrity fixation bullshit in the media. Somebody make it stop?
Hmmm
I doubt she makes this association. Somebody in charge of her career probably does though.
The tabloids are baying for her blood, just like they are with Docherty. They'll probably sell a shit load of papers if she does OD and cark it. Reminds me of the Britney Spears south park episode.
haha
seconded
and you
woah woah woah there
just because i posted a link from the Hate Mail, doesn't make me a moron. Fuck you
you're a snob
and the worst kind of english person, "isthisinteresting".
you're one of those people who carries broadsheets around in the hope that people notice how informed and smart you are.
That's an interestingly stupid point
Because actually, it was the opium addiction and disgrace of a certain actress back in the early twentieth century which led to the prohibition of that drug, and the subsequent proscription of 'drugs' we've had to endure ever since. So really, Amy's predicament is very much news. Don't be such a snob.
if there's real news happening in the world that you so pously give a shit about
why are you on a music website posting on a board for non news?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
i love amy <3
such a shame :-(
lol
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00581/SNF13BIZFACE_380_581632a.jpg
that guy needs more drugs
Hmmm.
Sad.
Someone I once knew told me a story about how,
-He was standing at the bar in the Hawley Arms next or near to Her and got served first. …Apparently she kicked up a fuss.
I heard that story the first time I met the anus, and was subsequently enlightened with it on several occasions.
I very much doubt Miss Winehouse would have taken it on board, but at least he’s got something to tell the grandchildren.
She ain’t Billie Holiday, but …
so sad
the fact that her father has now made some lame excuse for a media career out of this car-wreck is disgusting. an agony uncle on a radio show? come on. would you take advice from someone who is publicly letting his daughter descent into a nightmare?
i know parents are often helpless when their child is addicted to drugs, but selling his story every week to the tabloids isn't exactly helping her
Would someone please put a stop to this right now?
Her mother, father, best friend, management, agent, record company or someone.Please. Someone needs to take responsibilty for her. One month at one of those harsh detox places in Thailand with those Buddist Monks who take no shit from anyone would sort her out. What a waste of talent.
You'd think so wouldn't you?
It's not unlike the Britney situation. She seems to be on the right track now. Though a headline in one paper read; 'blah blah, she's better now, and her guiding angel was the UNLIKELIEST person; her father'.
Who'd have guessed it. What a star he is! Though the media did have a negative effect on her, it seemed, and that doesn't seem to be the case with Amy Winehouse.
I don't understand her, she always seemed level-headed. I get Pete Doherty; he's weak-minded, a waste of space, but her, I don't get.
I dunno.
Pete has always seemed a lot more smarter than her.
urgh
oh dear
it's not the papers' responsibility. they're always there and she's an easy story. i mean, rather than being fucked in the privacy of her own home, she's going outside and doing it - fair enough
i think she is already dead
and that some evil record executive types are just controlling her corpse like a maisonette puppet
:D
Can't her parents do what Britney's parents did for her
and assume control of her assets and have her sectioned. that seemed to work as britney now looks amazing again. i think everyone around her is being too soft and needs to force her to 'fess up.
it really is a tragedy what's going on with her. i want to take her home give her a good meal and bath.
wouldn't really help though would it ?
unless you gave her a poisoned meal and a bath in a vat of acid, the bitch deserves to die !!
does she?
why? i actually really like her and want her to sort herself out.
a day on
and i still stand by my 'the bitch deserves to die' comment, fucking ugly shitty song-writing publicity-hungry whore
you're well cool
you're really breaking down the boundaries of satire with that 'outrageous' comment, clearly aimed, ironically, for a little self publicity of your own.
loser.
I don't think anyone cares anymore.
Posh kids on crack, how alarming! She's got no kids, her parents obviously don't care enough to physically do something about it, i wish she'd just hurry up and kick the bucket. Sadly, by idiots at least, she'd be remembered as another great lost talent, another member of the idiot club who lived fast and died young. In reality she's just a mildly talented attention-seeking grotbag.
I agree with your summary
but I still don't want her to die. Mainly because - come one, she's a human being! - but also because the tabloids would have a fucking mufti day.
Yeah, this is why I don't want her to die.
I couldn't bear the legend status she'd receive after death.
how is she 'posh'?
^^^
This whole story is really, really sad
I mean I don't really like her music at all, but like so many of you have said, why oh why is NOBODY helping her out?
The hangers on, the gutter press and her cunting dad make me feel sick.
Yeah she probably will die soon, and its sad.
it makes no sense
Why her Dad comes out half the time saying she's doing ok.
Although he may have changed his view, didn't he tell Amy years ago she didn't need to go to rehab (obvs where the song came from)..but that was a silly thing to do.
Oh yeh really really sad
"someone needs to take responsibility for her" etc etc etc...
Why doesn't she take responsibility for herself?
She's a smack rat/ coke head /piss head i.e. scum of the earth. If she didn't have millions she'd be burgling you.
you'd make a great drugs counsellor
AMY - "Hi isthisdinteresting, i really need your help as my predeliction for narcotics has completely taken over my survival instincts and alienated all my loved ones leading to a helpless spiral of despair which will undoubtedly culminate in me taking more drugs and probably dying as a result. What should i do?"
ISTHISINTERESTING - "take some responsibility for yourself you smack rat"
You sir, are a cunt.
^
poor little sad rich girl
who loves attention. Boo hoo.
Again, non news. Real things are happening.
there's better ways of getting attention
than having emphysema
oh jesus
why don't you just get your cock out and say you're radical?
imagine the bbc 'have your say' section
the day after she dies. everyone will be saying similar things to isthisinteresting. she'll get no sympathy from that lot, no doubt they'll also blame that on gordon brown.
Why should she?
I'm sorry I don't subscribe to your recreational mourning. Does it make you feel better about yourself? Why don't you stand on the rooftops and shout "LOOK AT ME, I CARE ABOUT STUFF". It does NOT make you a better person, it makes you slightly odd. It's a thing that's become fashionable in recent years in the UK.
recreational mourning?
i won't mourn for her, but i don't blame her either. we're all addicted to stuff, when i gave up ciggies a few years ago i really needed help to get through that. seems laughable now... what she is going through is unthinkable.
So...
This comparison is the only laughable thing here!
The fact that nobody blames themself for anything is pathetic. Nobody has to accept responsibility for anything anymore. It's always somebody elses fault.
Like Ice T says..."You played yourself, Nobody put the crack into the pipe".
ok, i blame you then...
it's all your fault she's like this. someone has to take the blame.
it's nothing to do with feeling better about myself
it's more to do with feeling sympathy for someone in an impossible situation. it doesn't matter how she's ended up like this, the fact is she has, and now she's suffering and can't help herself.
you wouldn't parade around a chemo ward shouting at smokers with lung cancer that they deserve to die. actually you probably would. you are a cunt after all.
People who do get
lung cancer as an effect on smoking don't deserve sympathy though.
* as an effect of
^ a cunt
also.
what about people who get lung cancer from working the roads and being exposed to exhaust fumes? they deserve it aswell i suppose?
DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS DIED FROM LUNG CANCER? It is fucking horrible and you wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy.
I understand obvs you and uninteresting love a bit of controversy, but i think it gets a bit sick when you're talking about something as devastating as that.
seriously, grow up.
all the same
lung cancer is more or less self inflicted in most cases
my dad's probably gonna die of lung cancer, i will be upset, but i won't feel sympathetic, everyone knows the danger
i'm shocked
that you can say stuff like this.
sad.
ok jon_
message me when he has and we'll see about that yeah?
What about people
who started smoking way before it was publicly known to be dangerous? And beyond that, really, where's your humanity?
What, you've never made a mistake? It's just that getting addicted to nicotine is for some people a fatal mistake. That doesn't mean they deserve to die.
She's not in an impossible situation
She's a millionaire, not a street tramp.
Here is my solution to her impossible situation.
It's pretty crazy...
Stop taking smack.
There you go.
Also, I never mentioned anything about cancer and no, of course I wouldn't wander round a cancer ward shouting at people, that would be stupid. But you have to concede that smokers DO bring their own diseases on themselves and are responsible for stopping themselves.
Who said she deserves to do? Certainly not me. I just said it's not news and I don't give a fuck about it because she's a disgusting smack head.
Do you walk around city centres cooing at the smackheads huddling threateningly in dark corners? I don't.
do = die.
you didn't mention cancer
i did as an analogy for your stone age beliefs about addiction.
Have you given up smoking?
Because you know what? It ain't easy. At all.
You're forever a recovering addict. Why do you think so many people fail to permanently give up, even when they know it's killing them? Do you think they're all stupid? All weak? Sorry mate, not true.
If you take my point in context,
perhaps you wouldn't get so worked up.
When something's self-inflicted, i.e. lung cancer as an effect of smoking, then I have no sympathy for those who get lung cancer. Yes, it's sad and wouldn't wish it upon anyone, but when you put a cigarette in your mouth, you know the risks.
The examples you gave are not self-inflicted, out of the context of my point, and therefore, I'm ingnoring them.
I'm not after controversy at all, as if I really could give a damn about being controversial on some website... let's be real here. I'm just giving my opinion.
Oh, just read the
do you know anyone who's died from lung cancer? question.
Yes, my grandad did. It was his fault he got lung cancer, he even admitted it to us all while visiting him in hospital, constantly telling us all that he did this to himself and how selfish he's been to deprive his new grandson a great-grandfather.
Hope that answers your question.
as i said previously
cunts.
sorry to hear about your grandad, but when both of grandparents and my friend's mum died of lung cancer i didn't sit around remarking 'you brought this on yourself you selfish fuckers'. mostly, what i did was cry. a lot.
i think this has something to do with being a decent person and not some jumped up judgemental little prick.
all diseases (addictions included) are self inflicted. in fact most situations are, does that mean we should just do away with sympathy altogether? fuck compassion, let's just sit around smugly bemused that when people are in trouble they brought it on themselves. that sounds like a nice world to inhabit.
once again, cunts.
of - of my
actually
most diseases aren't self inflicted. That's the nature of them.
You're a moron.
an MA in biopsyhcology says
you're completely wrong sweetheart.
Neither did I.
I cried. A lot too. But I was also angry at him, which I've gotten over with time.
You've called me judgemental, but your also judging on how I reacted to the circumstances surrounding my grandad's death, so you're being hypocritical. But whatever.
Deaths aren't "one-size fits all" situations where everyone cries and deals with the loss in their own time. People react differently because people are different and circumstances are different. Yes, I was deeply upset as any decent person would be, but there were many, many emotions I was feeling at the time, as any decent person would.
Not all diseases are self-inflicted. Don't really need to expand on that point 'cuz it's just a simple fact.
The whole "let's just sit around smugly..." bit takes my previous comments grossly out of context. You can never be smug about stuff like that, of course not.
But there comes a time when someone must accept they are to blame for their circumstances, good or bad. The sooner they do, the sooner they can learn to accept the help of others to better their lives.
incorrect
1 - diseases don't spring from nowhere - they are the result of biochemical reactions to environmental stressors which may or may not have genetic causal components. from the common cold to HIV, human's put themselves in situations whereby these diseases have an increased capacity to develop. so, to a large extent all diseases are self-inflicted. ask ANYONE who has any experience with medicine or the biological sciences.
2 - "People who do get lung cancer as an effect on smoking don't deserve sympathy though" - seems pretty nasty and cruel in any context. and incredibly judgemental. what about non-smoking people with lung cancer who've co-habited with smokers? is it their fault for staying.
3 - People do have to accept blame for their circumstances if it's pivotal in resolving a problem, yes. well done. but people first have to accept there's a problem which sadly, most people with addictions to drugs like crack and heroin don't. largely to do with the fact that they are psychotic. to test this, i suggest finding someone with schizophrenia and trying to tell them that the voices they are hearing aren't real - see how they react.
4 - impulse control stops when addiction starts. next time you're at the pub and you want to stay out, try not to have that next drink and see how shitty your night becomes. then amplify by like, 1000 and that's sort of like the scale of addiction amy winehouse is feeling.
5 - out of interest. do anorexics deserve sympathy?
they're addicted to being thin so surely not according to your theory.
x
In response to these points...
Your first point... "humans put themselves in situations whereby these diseases have an increased capacity to develop..."
This doesn't make sense to me because it seems to go against principles of evolution. Why would any species put itself in a situation where it could become diseased, thus potentially killing itself? I'm not a scientist (as you've gathered!) but this just doesn't seem to make sense. And don't forget, cigarettes aren't natural, they're a human creation.
Point two... yeah, it does seems nasty. But I believe in the concept of tough love. Just because someone doesn't deserve sympathy, it absolutely doesn't mean that they don't deserve care, help and attention, if not for maiming themselves, but for potentially hurting others. This is where you are completely correct and agree whole-heartedly with you.
But I believe in responsibility, choices and consequences above everything else. The current credit crunch is a superb example of this... people not taking responsibility for their finances.
Point three... mental health problems are very different from addictions in that people can be born are develop mental illness which is in no part their fault. But, is the mental illness is a product of an addiction then, yes, it's self-inflicted and yes, it's that person's fault. But relating this to my previous point where I do absolutely agree with you, this doesn't mean we should just leave them isolated to suffer because it's there fault, no way. They need help, of course. To this extent i agree with you, I don't understand why you can't see this! But, whatever!
Point 4... The difference between myself and Winehouse is that I have self-control. I CAN stop at the next pint and say enough is enough... this is called being responsible for one's actions! In the very early stages of her addiction, way before it got out of hand, she didn't excercise self-restraint. She became irresponsible and decided not to stop at the next beer, but have another and another. Plus, when she starts lashing out at other people because she can't control herself, that's when it becomes totally unacceptable.
Point 5... Maybe some do, certainly younger people as they're more impressionable and likely to submit to peer pressure etc. In which case, they need help. In these circumstances, young people can't be held wholey responsible for their actions. Do they deserve sympathy? Maybe, but I think advice, help, medical assistance etc would be better in the long run.
I'm done now with this, otherwise we'll be going around in circles forever!
You've certainly made some good, challenging points which I've taken onboard and have made me reconsider many of my initial points, for which I thank you, though I doubt we'll ever see eye-to-eye on this issue! But whatever, thanks for engaging in the discussion. Peace.
blame.
diana. fo'so.
I blame
Dianna and everyone that died by accident this year.
fuck me
you're actually a clownboat aren't you.
is it a milkfloat as opposed to a rooftop that you shout how much you care about stuff from?
but
he has a point (although I wouldn't exactly call her scum of the earth).
clearly no one in her circle has any success in helping her, so any change will have to come from herself.
Irresolute
I don't know if I want her to pass now, having to listen to her post-mortem tribute for the next year. Or having to risk listening to even more crappy albums with even more awefull songs.
God save me from this neo soul wave or whatever you wanna call it, worst music ever.
its a bit silly
how everyone will have seen it coming
Apparently there's been a plane crash in russia.
serves them all right
they know the risks when they get on a plane.
or 'got on the plane'
you know what i mean!
^
ah true. don't get fizzybovril and uninteresting started on 9/11. i mean, those people chose to go to work that day so it's completely self-inflicted.
Negative
The risks of getting on a plane are not dying.
The risks of smoking ARE lung cancer.
dude
you started an argument post with "negative".
i haven't even met you and i hate the very fibre of your being. jesus. are you even human?
dude?
Yes, I'm human. Are you a ninja turtle? Like WOAH DUDE.
nothing like the good old ad hoc retort to divert attention from your retarded ways
eh uninteresting?
people have died in plane crashes
the risk of death is there when boarding one.
Actually
One of the risks of getting on a plane is indeed dying. In fact, It's one of the risks of living.
cant we just throw her in an acid bath and get it over with?
This is a great clip
She looks nice and healthy and the vocal delivery is absolutely effortless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrspXSPwXjA
to the people who are writing
her off as a smackhead who would be burgling your house is she wasn't rich... does this woman look like a smackhead?
http://version2.andrewkendall.com/pages/photogallery/803/
Maybe, like karen carpenter, and slight risk of britney spears, she is being worked to death.
i don't think she's being worked to death
those photographs were taken before her dip into constant drinking and crack, so of course she doesn't look like a smackhead
But she would have
started the drinking and crack to help her cope with the workload, like she had about four major festival shows in the last two weeks. Any normal person would be bricking it, she just removes herself from the world.
four days work
for three hours a day over two weeks.. hardly overkill is it? you don't see people in shitty, mundane 9-5 jobs taking ketamine, coke, or heroin to cope. she's an attention seeking twat, as someone noted earlier.
"you don't see people in shitty, mundane 9-5 jobs taking ketamine, coke, or heroin to cope."
take the heroin out of that sentence, and that's a stupid statement.
^
This
Your job sitting with ten other people
tapping the keys on a keyboard is hardly comparable to appearing on stage in front of 60,000 screaming idiots, surrounded by cameras and media people scrabbling over your preemptive grave
bollocks
for a girl with her supposed talent, why would she have to worry? if she can't hack being a superstar without having to be constnatly off her face, she shouldn't have persued fame in that industry. there are plenty of other performers and bands out there who manage it.
^
this
^
oh dear :(
Nah
She's grubby sure. But you see people looking like that on the streets all the time. Its tragic but not necessarily fatal.
Makes you wonder what crack heads on the street might have looked like before they got into drugs.
that's exactly what i thought
mad! those scary people who ask you for money or shout at road signs. apparently she got into crystal meth, and that's one of those goodnight vienna drugs. meth mouth and all that. fuck me. what a silly person amy winehouse has been. its actually really really sad. i saw her just before the meltdown got serious, and i've never heard a better live singer in all my days. even the dull session muso backing band couldn't have ruined it.
ooh, you're all so tough for wishing death upon junkies
one of them was my ex-girlfriend. it was only 6 months between the time she first used and the time she OD'd. her stepfather and sister and several friends were all junkies. she was a beautiful person, but it was all around her, she couldn't avoid it no matter how she tried.
i understand they can be lying, theiving cunts, but to anyone who wishes death upon them, you are far worse than they are. grow a soul (if souls exist)
^
much better than i could have put it. and sorry to hear that.
Inspiration
is what this thread is.
Wow. Humans are great, aren't they?
mediamodia, you are a good human. Amongst so many shits.
I rant.
http://heavysoil.blogspot.com/2008/09/heavy-soil-rants-in-defence-of-amy.html
Re: I think Amy Winehouse may die soon
I think she making her career go down--drugs, marriage is kinda eh, and it's pretty crazy. sounds like another britney spears...
I think she looks
dead and actually re-animated by record industry types. Cynical bastards.
She looks like a woman in her 50's
No advert for drugs is she.