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has anyone seen "will bevan"?
He posted a picture of himself on myspace. Myspace never lies.
that said if you google will bevan... oh look, its an undertakers company.
the plot thickens.
although i just did it and its just stuff about Burial, i imagine the undertakers is there but i cant be bothered to go back like a bajillion pages just to find it.
how old is this news?
its not Fourtet.
Actually, did people every say it?
and I shall endeavour to use it more often.
Jog on fatty.
but Burial, Four Tet and three members of Hot Chip all went to the same school.
Burial was in the year above I think.
what was this all about then?
being posted on radiohead's official site with the caption:
"Thom 'Eraser' Yorke introduces Kieran ' Burial ' Hebden...."
i posted that too!
i) an in-joke
ii) colin greenwood also thinks hebden is burial, but is incorrect
iii) burial is hebden
iv) a deliberate ploy to fool us all
suggests that ii) isn't the case
i dunno. it would make sense, with the "will bevan" thing just being a poorly constructed attempt to throw people off the scent.
i dont even like burial much, just wondering what the situation is
what we do know is that Kieran Hebden went to The Elliott School, as did Joe Goddard (of Hot Chip). Goddard is on record as saying that Burial was in the year above him at school.
All of Kieran Hebden, Joe Goddard and "William Bevan" are listed on a website of so-called well-known people who went to that school. Kieran is well known as being one of the few people who "knows" Burial. I believe, but could be mistaken, that Hebden is one year older than Goddard. So, who knows?
that is to say, it's equally conceivable that they are 3 people that know eacher, or two people with an alter-ego thrown in for good measure.
also, is radiohead's DAS post simply an in-joke, or a slip? -> http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/index.php?a=408
that somehow hasn't been picked up on much?
it would be a surprise though. Burial is a so much better, musically, than anything Four Tet has ever done.
than the style of music hebden makes as fourtet"
i mean, actually think about it. if fourtet was a dubstep project you'd have a point
"if something's on the internet, it must be real!"
he posts a blog with some picture and a name. after however long being secretive.
jimitheexploder when you need him?
it'd be pretty interesting if it was though
There's a mystery then when people find out the answer it doesn't interest them enough so they believe the rumours instead.
Is there any proof Burial is Will Bevan? No. Is there more evidence to suggest Burial is Will Bevan than there is that he's Keiron Heben? Yes. So is that therefore the more likely concusion? Yes.
By the same token for all I know GalacticStar3ruption might actually be Tommy Lee Jones posting under a false name. It probably isn't but I can't prove it not to be the case.
tommy lee jones and galacticstareruption, standing next to tommy lee jones with the caption "famous person introduces galacticstareruption" then you would
i'd say it's a firm negative - they don't seem to share anything in terms of sound, mood, structure or technique
red herring methinks
2)both the burial and fourtet projects are very very limited. its hardly inconceivable that a guy could make the two without any bleed over between them. i can make folk and electro and noise without any innate similarities between them. one person could easily make folky krauty electronica and uk garage with ambient sounds without crossover
but i'd expect something in the way of crossover, even if it was very subtle. Burial seems to be someone completely involved in "urban" music of the past, whilst Hebden seems to adopt a jazzier, more roots based outlook in all of his projects. And he's a bit of a hack as well.
I just don't see it
i see him as a one trick pony. a pretty good trick, but one that it wouldn't take a massive feat of imagination to see kieran hebden coming up with.
all i really want is some explanation for the radiohead website thing
but he definitely seems like someone with a singular vision operating in his own niche, whilst Hebden is a bit of a hacky dilettante operating in a very different spectrum
I'd be amazed if Keiran Hebden = Burial.
I don't think it's inconceivable that Burial = Will Bevan = a guy who wants to be low-key.
but i still dont understand the radiohead thing
but you do have to hand it to will/ burial- at least he's got people talking about him ;-)
just a prank to make people like me talk, or a reference to some other rumour or something? I DUNNNNNNNO
I got goosebumps just thinking about it. LAME.
Burial is Will Bevan. Everything posted in that Myspace blog is true. I know this to the case as I know El-B, the old garage/dubstep producer who Burial came out as saying is a big influence of his and got in touch through Myspace to meet up with. It is the guy in the photo, a quiet skinny white guy with long hair - called Will Bevan.
More fool you.
He's a good mate of my sister's boyfriend. I've been to a few hip hop and dubstep nights with them. He's a nice guy, very down to earth and approachable. It's weird hanging out with the guy who made tunes like Stone Cold and all the other Groove Chronicles output. True legend.
Like I said Burial got in touch with him through Myspace and they met up. He said Will (Burial)'s just a normal, softly spoken music head with a passion for old school garage and jungle.
I find it weird that people like alcxxk want to go along with and try and give credence to these rumours and conspiracies. It's as if people don't want to believe it's just a normal guy sitting at his computer in his bedroom making these tunes, it has to be some virtuoso electronica head. Keiran Hebden's such a weird choice as well, he's so far removed, both stylistically and in terms of production, from the Burial sound it's ridiculous. As for the DAS picture, it's obviously just an in-joke about the rumour.
based on the "Introducing Keiran "Burial" Hebden" comment? I reckon it could be a bit of an in-joke...
yorke is such a four tet felcher
and so's my wife.
burial r four tet,
thom yorke r the eraser,
and cyberdemon r pieces_of_reese,
DEN WHO WAS FONE?!?
This would mean Hebden gets 2 DJ Kicks compilations. Hebden doesnt seem that secretive about anything he does. It would mean he spent 6 years making two-step influenced proto-dubstep and not releasing any of it on any of his albums nor even releasing anything that sounds close to being similar during that time.
Although i don't know who he is, logic kind of dictates he isnt Hebden. Im more inclined to believe the guy who knows El-B.
first album sleeve credits the music to 2001-2006 I believe (which is actually 5 years). I say proto because dubstep wasnt even called dubstep until 2004 as far as I know.
uses a fake name, putting fake dates on a record doesn't really sway me
it's for copyright more than anything. That way no one can come back and say they wrote this or that tune in 2003 or whatever.
Thats one thing thats not liable to be a lie as it could land him in shit. One thing to have a monicker but entirely another to be playful with the legal side of your music.
surely it could mean that he did one rough sketch of one of the tracks in 2001?
of course. he made one rough sketch in 01 and then wasnt arsed for 4/5 years to continue with the project. Yes he might have started a track in 01 and not finished it for ages. The guy is incredibly self-critical so it's no wonder it took so long for an albums worth to materialise. Fourtet (whilst at times great) could do with a little quality control. Some of the Steve Reid collaboration is just self-indulgent jamming (incidentally his collaborative period with Reid pretty much clashes with Burial's entire release history)
you gotta do better than that.
im not claiming that kieren hebden is burial. just that i can't see how anything that anyone's said remotely disproves that he is.
eg: like you said the steve reid thing was indulgent jamming. thus how much time/effort do you think those releases took? not much.
and he's got no quality control with his main project so he has more quality conttrol with another project
believe in God?
That sounds like christian rhetoric to me.
Basically by your argument i could say he was Richard D James or Brian Eno and could be just as right.
'Burial' comes forward with a random photo, says his name, has people he went to school with to speak for his existence, has his material published under the name Will Bevan and besides several producers and label owners who have spoken for his existence and that isnt enough for you?
and i know someone who works at Fourtet's publishers who informs me he would be in serious breech of contract publishing his material elsewhere as Burial.
..quite a while ago I a smart hack (think it was from the guardian) tracked down the publishing details for both albums and yes, they led to Mr Bevan
the hives did
I guess he might be on the telly tonight if anyone is arsed.
Is Burial I recon anyway. I have heard people from the scene like producers and stuff who have met him come out and say that, that is him when he went and announced it on mysace. I would beleive them alot more than I would the dude from radiohead in a quirky photo which looks like they are mucking about and having a laugh with it.
post is a JOKE you mugs! is that not obvious?
they are playing on the rumours that hebden is burial. ''''''''''''''''Burrrrialll'''''''''''''
after i saw that post, and i didnt see a single comment on a message board rumouring that they were the same person.
if i had i'd completely get it. maybe people talk places other than the internet tho??? no idea.
Shackleton? no idea
Mad Mike? nope dunno him either he might be called Mike though...
Jeff Mills.... ummmm no thats correct...
but you might follow me just cos we have a random name or face to Burial now doenst mean a thing we still no nothing more about him other than his music....
Burial is Burial, end of. No Story.
Is this not a bit like Slipknot....
mr t. he was performing with jeff mills at sonar this year as x-102. jolly good show, banks was yawning at times, though.
I think 'Untrue' is an amazing album.
In fact, if by chance Keiran Hebden is Burial, it would be the best thing he has ever done by a mile (although Fridge were cool).
at least fourtet's live stuff has the excuse of being a laptop show