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would you leak it all over the album like mucus from a whore's knickers, or keep it all for yourself and feel smug?
Though primarily cos it shouldn't really be yr decision to make whether people should hear it or not, surely?
but i'd keep a copy, and then leak it when they've got it
spread rumours about it on the internet, let a few select people hear it...
Yeah, that'd be good.
I would listen to it and see how much I loved it.
then I would go back to the artists if I loved it and try and convince them it was brilliant. And try and get them to release it.
If that failed. unleash the fucker with a big speal about how much you love the band and this album.
hell demos and bootleg pop up all the time...
Why do you ask?
then in that case keep it under ya hat untill you have PMed it to me then deleate it of your computer and we will just forget about it
not sure. i'd feel bad if i leaked it, but, well, if SOMEONE here hadn't done the former i wouldn't have Beat Dyslexia by Distophia now, would i?
loads of bands dismiss their own work and stuff, it doesn't mean their opinion is valid because they created it, or that fans shouldnt be allowed to hear it. I dont mean works in progress though.
"it doesn't mean their opinion is valid because they created it, or that fans shouldnt be allowed to hear it".
bands are to atched to there work half the time to make any judgment on it.
so if you are liking it and so are others that you have played it to who are fans...
let them have it...
just dont try and make cash off it that would pis the band off
Nah it aint worng man
Alot of bands are to shy or to into getting everthing so perfect that they just don't have a clue anymore about what is good or not in their music.
Surley you can see an artist doing that?
I have read interviews with lots of artists saying they thought half the stuff they did was shit and they never wanted anyone to hear it. Aphex Twin says he keeps most the stuff he makes for him self. Burial recently apologised for his music in his blog hehee
"that's like reading someone's diary just because they're a published author".
but to cover my arse i'm saying that it's subjective. For instance, i've not read Kurt Cobain's journals as i know it's delving into a private world that by rights i shouldn't have access to. But then again i have a huge tome of Sylvia Plath's diaries, so. i realise this is double standards on my part.
it is kinda personal sure
peoples art should be whtever they want it to be and in most cases it shouldbe kept that way.
But then leakinga little bitof someones unrelesed work is only going to rach a few dedicated fans ears as well.
the only person who does is whoever created it.
but if the music has got to a fan in the first place that isn't close with the band then surley the music is already out there?
in this day and age especialy.
That's not what the question is.
I would say it is the artists choice.
I think I'm just saying that some artists need a kick up the ass and could do with the encouragment of some fans...
I read quite a bit of stuff about dubstep and some of those artists have so many tunes on the back burner that only a few people have, yet they are amazing and will never see the light of day. Its a bit sad to see some stuff go to waste.
Plus we all know when the artists is gone the back catolouge gets rapped by anyone and everyone with re-releases and remixes and alsorts or albums coming out in some cases. Big artists of course...
Are we talking about an act that has become successful and made its money on the basis of the loyal support of fans (whether of the band specifically or of music generally)? If so, is there a residual obligation to "give back" to those fans? When I say "obligation", I don't mean anything binding: in a sense it's the destiny of all artists to fail that obligation, insofar as they must eventually retire (or die). But I don't quite buy the idea that what an artist has produced is solely their own.
The diary analogy doesn't quite hold either. To the extent that music recounts personal events and private thoughts/sentiments, it does so in a completely different way to a diary. And let's not forget that we're talking about a recorded album, not some spontaneous home recordings. The better analogy would be diaries that the author crafted and rewrote, took to a publisher, had page-set, etc., and at the last minute put a halt to production.
but sort of. Countless bands (and artists in general) dismiss stuff that they've done which is amazing. Their personal opinion of their work could be tainted by anything.
Kubrick banned Clockwork Orange didn't he?
Then people should respect that?
It's their decision to make.
but sometimes taking it out of their hands is just fine...
Artists aint gods they are humans like everyone...
doesn't watch any of his films or something. But with film, moreso than music, it's basically out of his hands once it's done. This is a good thing (well, you could argue not recently) but yeah...
I think if you were to go back and think of all the art that has been created and took away everything artists weren't happy with, then the world would be much worse off.
Surely as the creator of something we should allow them to choose what happens to it? If anything at all.
It seems like you think 'fans' have some sort of ownership rights over an artist's creativity?
say an artist goes crazy or something.
I don't think it's "quality control" issue. A leak is a leak, so if it's shite and they didn't release it no one is going to judge them by it.
I don't think it'd taint my memory of a band to hear some shit demos they made when they started up or whatever. See..."Best"/Mclusky
the fans just buy it they dont own it
the artist should get someone like a rocord company exec or trusted person to choose some stuff.
I can give an example:
Burial released his debut on Hyperdub ran by Kode 9 and kode 9 chose the tracks that went on that release. That album was massive and got so much crittical aclaim it was rediculess. Burial didn't have the confidane in his work to choose the music for it. As many artists wouldn;t have...
LFO's last album Sheath was all chosen buy an outsider and their friends. The artists just made tracks they liked then gave up the choice for teh album to someone else and it works brilliantly.
Those 2 artists could have a hell of alot of amaznign syuff put away some place that they feel is a whole load of shit.
If other people find this and its truley brilliant then why not splash it out all over the place...
This i damn raer though and most of the time the stuff people keep to them selves is worth keeping to them selves hell its worth keeping alot of material they want to put out to them selves alot of the time...
there's probably great albums by bands that wouldn't have been released if it was left up to them. Record labels occasionally have their good points.
To be fair, this whole question is pretty hypothetical anyway.
If you get the release from the acctual artist and you say you wont leak it. Just don't leak it. Respect them peeps for sure.
just bully the fuckers into releasing it or finishing it if it really is that good.
I've got a Kenickie CD-R with about 50 demos of songs they recorded before the release of Catsuit City. I'd never ever leak it.
Got to keep that torrent ratio up.
what the cock is a torrent?
is it like old skool style p2p downloadin like napster style?
I keep seeing it and I have no idea what it means...
through which files are sent. I'm pretty sure that's the best way of explaining it.
I think I know where ya comin from I willlook into it but it looks very naughty and all that heheh
you have to download some kind of program right?
then you can get torrents to work?
to be honest doing a google search is so easy I haven't felt the need to do much else...
attempting to get some Festive Fifties for ZsaZsa, all too complex for me though unfortunately.
I got confused by them far to much
I know of lists of festive 50's but not audio unfortunatly.
man I miss hearin that dudes voice on the radio...
what have you got? In Charge Of Meats?
has he got the lost Tracy Is Hot & The Clap discbox?
If I thought it appropriate for someone else to hear it, then I probably wouldn't mind too much if they leaked it, but that's purely how I'd feel about my own music.
i'd sell it to milli vanilli so they could make a comeback
that was scuttled because of label politics more than anything else, so i don't see any issues with that being leaked.
(as an aside: fuck you, neccessary records)