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says this guy...
people like this make me sick, what a cunt.
BA (Hons) Eng Lit and now obviously a simpleton as well. Agreed, the man's a cunt
he's not a metal fan then if he believes 99% of all metal songs are terrible.
I guess then we have a case of Tweedledee and Tweedledum, don't we?
if there's more than a billion metal songs in existence and he believes 1% are not terrible then that's still a lot of metal.
I'd say he could still be a metal fan.
99% OF WHAT IS OUT THERE IS TERRIBLE
MOST METAL FANS ARE SIMPLETONS
MOST REGGAE FANS ARE SIMPLETONS
MOST FOLK FANS ARE SIMPLETONS
MOST PEOPLE I HAVE MET IN MY LIFE ARE SIMPLETONS
YOU ARE IN ALL LIKELIHOOD A SIMPLETON
BUT THAT'S OK
Such a stupid sweeping statement is like saying:
All hip hop fans are black and carry guns.
All punk fans have mohicans and a studded leather jacket.
All indie kids are tight jean wearing ponces.
All ColdPlay fans are middle aged and read the Guardian.
Dillinger escape plan
Just one amazing reason to listen to it.
Do you feel the need to impart your all-encompassing knowledge?
overall you are attacking a style of music that you don't like, so haven't done much research on.
"Like I said, I've never met anyone I'd consider that smart who likes metal as a genre." - you obviously haven't been around many 'metal' circles or you probably would have. i still fail to see the correlation between musical taste and intellect.
this forum just keeps outdoing itself tbh.
punk band if anything
but what about people who just like decent meatl? and what qualifies anyone to make a statement like this?
is going to have a handful of groundbreaking bands or artists that push the boundaries and hundreds of imitators cashing in on their success. It's not really that people think metal is bad as a genre but rather that you can stereotype millions of people around the world as simpletons because they like metal.
face it your argument is tenuous at best and based on basic stereotypes.
okay...some metal fans are stupid...but you can say that of any genre that has a pretty large following.
I like metal and I'm not stupid. There's only so thick you can be if you program computers for a living...
knows nothing about metal
hahahahahhahahahahahhahahah!?!!! you really are an utter nitwit
It's hardly a defence... you'd need a sense of humour to see why I posted it though.
I couldn't find the one where he plays a quad guitar.
How about this one?
theres plenty of metal bands that have a good grasp on music theory. I myself, am in a "heavy" band. I also have grade 8 music theory / clarinet and grade 7 piano.
I also make pretty electronica piano ambience too
Nothing went "wrong". I just enjoy playing loud distorted bass tuned to drop A in a band enviroment.
Heavy doesn't need to be bereft of melody or intelligent thought..
he was probably topld to look for people that the general public would recognise as "metal fans" ..ie a bit dense with long hair and an iron maiden tshirt..oh and male
I am a spelling spag
like when you grow your hair and stuff it makes your brains come out of your head and stuff!
He probably bumped into me during Metallica... I am quite simple.
Was he being deadly serious while posting on DiS?
you can't pretend that there aren't people that hold these views.
but I can not give a shit.
Anyone who thinks this is clearly an idiot. There are no kudos available for pointing out that prejudice is wrong. It was all handed out in the 1960s.
i don't really feel there is much point in trying to argue with people who's ears are obviously too fragile to be able to notice the complexities involved with decent 'metal' music. the comment held about as much weight as a cartoon depicting someone who has given themselves brain damage from headbanging too much.
but it makes me so angry that people can be so stupid.
everyone that listens to happy hardcore is stupid though?
There was a 35 year old pillhead, kicked out of school, dreadlocks, anti anything punky rave happy hardcore lover (with whom I got on very well) on my degree course and he now has numerous awards and did the best out of any student in the past 50 years on completion of the course.
But maybe a majority are.
will just see all the shite that is popular..
its like some people writting off all indie music because they once heard the libertines and thought (rightly) that they are a bag of wank..and then jumping to the wrong conclusion...that its all bad
libertines do suck...(in my opinion)
ive read most of what you've written so far and what you have to say clearly marks you out as an absolute moron.
Good god man.
Just stop now.
it's like throwing rocks at a drowning dog.
but I'm going to attempt to see your point of view.
You're correct when you say that some people do like metal just because it's well...metal. Anything that is mega-heavy with screaming vocals and conforms to a certain image etc. I think you can say similar things about any genre, although I can understand your issues with these types of people, yes.
What you can't do is hold these prejudice views of all "metal fans", you're simply stereotyping, how can you not see that?
I'm guilty of the intelligence thing too, I wasn't "cool" or popular, good at sports etc. when growing up, so it's all I had to hold on to. :(
and people have always told me how smart I am, so I get offended if anyone (especially on the internet, they've never met me after all so how could they know) tries to tell me otherwise.
The last sentance = yes, I'm not denying that.
I don't know why it's so important. It's not the only thing I've got, I'm good looking and apprently a really nice guy.
So yeah, I'm great with or without my intelligence. ;)
although I like pretending that I'm an arrogant, big-headed twat for some reason, especially on DiS.
the same as in real life I find the people I do actually like and try and stay away from the people I don't.
still have the ability to piss me off.
you are a dick.
in tet-a-tet banter, but this is the stupidest thing I've seen you post.
so we should all disregard intelligence and accept that we're all what? stupid? animals? minute specs in the cosmos? lumps of fat?
Just have no ambition or pride.
That's truly healthy.
the intelligent answer is to look at the evidence and accept that, yes, we ARE animals, and minute specs in the cosmos, and lumps of fat (and protein, and nerves, and bone etc) ?
and kill ourselves.
The less people there are on Earth, the more I get...apart from sex, unless more males kill themselves. Which you are, so go for it.
and I must agree, I think metalheads are simpletons. There's no group of people more close minded than metalheads. I can't understand how someone can just listen to one genre constantly
getting your knickers in a twist over a joke comment made on a website = pretty simple.
I'm wouldn't even call myself a "metal fan", I like some metal yes but I'm definitely not the type of person that's being stereotyped.
You say that it's a joke and maybe it was but there are actually people that hold these views.
from such a witty response. *sigh* you win, I have nothing more to give.
isn't that the new Adema single?
I fucking Love that film.
Bad News II isn't as good. Can you remember Colin Grigson's character's voice? Someone's posting on here is really sounding alot like Vim..
"For the last time we are not a heavy metal band.".."Heavy metal Heavy metal Heavy metal Heavy metal Heavy metal Heavy metal Heavy metal"
and metallers reckon playing their guitars really well makes them good musicians
WELL IT DOESN'T
makes them good musicians, the guitar was a musical instrument the last time I checked.
This is what the internet is all about: anonymous toss spewed forth by self important wind-up merchants with too much time between wanks. Mr Bamnan, you are not Chris Morris. You're more like a taxi driver who's swallowed a dictionary.
I imagine you wouldn't have the balls to say what you have typed here to anyone's face.
The cowards become the prophets here.
extend to hardcore and punk, or just metal?
If so, i think Henry Rollins and Ian MacKaye might have something to say about that.
You're, sir, are a f**ing tool.
is a pretty obvious case of hardcore-minded musicians being heavily influenced by metal ideals.
All three genres are intrinsically linked.
punk and hardcore are not influnced by metal
The very fact genres like deathcore, metalcore, grindcore etc exist means hardcore HAS very obviously and consistently for many years, through many classic bands and albums, been very much influenced by metal.
the whole point of slayer was to make fast metal a punk drum rhythm
its not pure hardcore is it?
judge for yourselves
Metal can be great, like every other genre.
calling a Venn diagram to this thread, STAT
There does seem to be a something about metal (as a broad genre) that attracts more than its fair share of hicks, rednecks and vanilla idiots. But not much more, and certainly not exclusively.
so i must be smart
Everyone on this thread needs to calculate their MIQ (metal intellingance quotient)now as follows:
IQ - your IQ score (there are lots of tests online)
M - the number of metal albums in your collection
CBM - the number of clever bastard metal albums in your collection (think Dillinger Escape or anything that changes time signature or could be called polyrhythmic)
C - number of metal crossover albums in your collection (anything that sounds metal but has 'normal' vocals counts - God Machine, Opeth etc) (not to be confused with c - the speed of light).
CP - Cliche points (total the number of albums which contain the following words:
Chaos (2 points if spelt Kaos)
*n.b Wolves in the Throne room do NOT count for this instance)
Your MIQ can be worked out as follows:
MIQ = IQ / (M-CBM) * CP+C
it was irony. Or for comic effect. Yeah.
Metal is down there with Eurodance and Put A Donk On It and Channel U.
is melodic electronic rock and roll music.
people are snobs and unfortunately they always will be. it's pretty shocking but there you go.
I pretty much listen to music that can be extracted from most corners of the musical genre paradigm and I know what I think what is good and what isn't.
Currently, although not being an out an out metal fan I have a newfound huge respect for it because; I watched Metallica close Reading festival and it was one of the greatest peformances I've witnessed for quite some time. Every song was brilliantly executed (some even slightly faster than the orignals and still tight) the sound was absolutely perfect where I was standing, they put on a really entertaining show, engaged with the fans and, best of all, the set pretty much was exclusively material off what is undeniably their 5 best albums despite the fact that the latest one (black album) was released in 1992, over 15 years ago.
in short, it was easily the least pretentious thing of the whole weekend; the band came with the intention of playing a really good rock show - which they did with aplomb - and the fans were all really respectful and nice and clearly just very happy to be there. It was one of the more humbling things I've experienced and they made a deeming prospect of a 2 hour set feel like 15 minutes.
absolutely top notch.
AND I LISTEN TO MASTODON. AND WHEN I LISTEN TO MASTODON I ABSOLUTLEY HAVE TO POST IN ALL-CAPS.
BELLY OF THE WHALE!
DOES THIS SIGNIFY ANYTHING? PROBABLY NOT.
THAT IS ME.
and anyone who disagrees is gay.
There, that's that sorted.
when you can have nectarines?
but Im a simpleton
If so, my respect for you has shot up another couple of notches