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Other suggestions as well. Really want a decent mag to read.
now that Punk Planet is no more.
Last Hours (UK Monthly with a bias towards punk and hardcore, but which also covers all sorts of issues and is SERIOUSLY well put together) is worth getting.
Skyscraper (US Quarterly, lovely big issues, will cover anything from Dinosaur Jr to Jeffrey Lewis via Sonic Youth, The Mae Shi and Stephen Malkmus in a typical issue).
That's all I read these days, although I 'll still look at Maximum RockNRoll if I chance upon a copy.
is really good, but just impossible to get hold of.
although the closest one to Cornwall is in Bristol, so yep, pretty hard to get hold of.
The Believer (their current issue is music-themed)
Under The Radar (which I think is US/Canada based, but available at Rough Trade and online -http://www.undertheradarmag.com/)
Plan B is pretty good, but they occasionally print some complete rubbish - the review of the Times New Viking album was nearly unreadable.
Might send off some money tomorrow.
but it doesn't exactly have much competition does it?
and possibly the only decent broad-based music mag in the uk.
rockarolla is great, and the writing's improved wholesale since the early issues, but i guess if the genres they cover aren't your thing it's not for you.
is fab, but you need to like the stuff it covers or it won't make any sense. I only read that and The Wire now. I cancelled my Plan B sub as the writing style really started to rile me, as did Everett True.
Abe Vigoda, Stereolab, No Age, HEALTH, Rolo Tomassi, Lou Barlow, Portishead, Gutter Twins, Blood Red Shoes........
I fucking love that magazine... purely on pictures/design alone... then come the editorial! ;)
There was this pretty mid twenties brunette type with a digital SLR and a serious lens sheltering beneath a tree outside the Uncut Stage on the Saturday at around midday, I was going to ask her if she was you, but err....didn't.
I was at Truck - could have been Holly? (she shot for DiS that weekend) that well sounds like me though (apart from the pretty part!!)
'Hi, I'm from that internet place!' etc etc
You're too modest. :D
especially at festivals.. its actually quite frightening!
But do keep an eye out for a small thing with a camera - no one ever says hello and it would be well nice! :D
As I'm here one more YAY for Plan B... I wish they'd let me photograph for them *sigh* one day maybe...
a few issues ago.
but is it actually easy to purchase in shops?
They always stock it.
If in doubt, just subscribe. Getting stuff through the post is officially fun!
Other than bills and speeding fines, obvs.
Yeah. Last copy I got was at a train station WHSmiths so I expect it's pretty simple.
but if you mean Plan B, then Waterstones and Borders usually stock it.
but yeah. it's kinda the best. spin/filter are okay, loose lips sink ships was AMAZING and the older ones will say careless talk costs lives was good too - didn't hear about it until it died to create LLSS and plan b.
but I do really appreciate your answers and help. What are the CDs like that come with it? Like do they cover artists from that issue or what?
Bella Union compilation.
I only get it when there's a cover CD, it was always a bit too America- and knowingly indie- centric for me, like a British Pitchfork. Not overwhelmingly but the mag always felt insidiously like it was jealous of its transatlantic cousins. Much like Careless Talk did. That's just a feeling I get, though, they do cover a good range of bands and it muy pretty (which is my first criteria for printed media - and pretty much everything, actually).
The last one I got had a Fat Cat sampler which is always good. I also liked the actual content a lot more.
The paper stock they use is lovely, though. My word.
label sampler from Rock Action a couple of isses back - Envy, Mogwai etc etc. Great stuff.
Skyscraper is my favourite music magazine.
My favourite issues;
Skyscraper #4 includes interviews with Girls Against Boys, Murder City Devils, Jets to Brazil, Man or Astro-Man?, Harriet The Spy, The Makers, Stop Breathing Magazine, Snapcase, The Promise Ring, Joan of Arc, Tree Records (!!!!!), Skylab Operations and AudioInformationPhenomena, Nuzzle (!!!!), and The Crimson Curse. Also included are record reviews, print reviews, articles, and columns.
Skyscraper #18 features ...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead, Pinback, The Arcade Fire, Tim Kinsella, John Frusciante, Bloc Party, Isis, Frog Eyes, Battles, The Plot to Blow Up the Eiffel Tower, The pAper chAse, Smoke and Smoke, Red Eyed Legends, Call Me Lightning, Rolling Blackouts, Sluts of Trust, Breather Resist, Measles Mumps Rubella, Wives, The Living Blue, The Mae Shi, Brian Eno, Galaxie 500, Unbroken, Q and Not U and reviews.
Skyscraper #26 features Bad Brains, Les Savy Fav, Mum, Deerhunter, Cass McCombs, Two Gallants, Sir Richard Bishop, Editors, Tarentel, Pissed Jeans, Meneguar, Black Cross, Gallows, Torche, Qui, Aa, Tyvek, Clipd Beaks, Health, and reviews.
Fucking amazing magazine. The really early issues had
...The really early issues had stuff on Still Life and an interview with Kent McClard of Ebullition recs. RESPECT!
in fact that's the last one i've bought, i havent been able to find a more recent one anywhere, gutted.
the best one i've read is the stool pigeon, but as it's free it's harder to get hold of. Maybe i should subsribe, i might subscribe.
...the internet does lots of things better than print - speed, connectivity, multi-media... but a good magazine can fit into yr life in a different way - early predictions that electronic media wd oust paper didn't factor in what a user-friendly and flexible technology the latter is.
print magazines are convenient for carrying with you, for acting as a trusted/friendly filter for the sheer amount of info out there (concentrating the most interesting stuff in one place and delivering it to the reader, whereas the surfer may have to spend more time searching, sourcing, etc) and - until paperlike lo-contrast screens become common - longer, more in-depth pieces... (in Plan B's case, by writers given latitude to express themselves in a way that'd probably be seen as 'too subjective' in comparison to the more immediate, functional web interface).
i dunno what the future of music magazines is in this country; don't suppose they'll ever retain the status they used to, but i don't see why they can't complement use of a site like DiS.
in the same way that digitisation has hit indie labels and shops, so truly independent mags like Plan B, The Wire and The Stool Pigeon are probably bought/read by a smaller readership than previous generations, and because we're about edge culture (whether margins, future or niche) by definition, there's (lots) less money there...
Plan B wd have faded away long ago if the purpose was to make grrreat profits (or, if that was our aim, we cd easily have sidestepped inelegantly into covering the more mainstream bands who'd guarantee big advertising and audiences).
also: when done right, like vinyl, magazines are nice objects, like ninja scrolls, manifestos, comix.
aaand: thx for all kind comments re:Plan B - we work like puritan monsters, always. it is nice to know there are hands, mouths and eyes in the darkness beyond our office.
drownedinsound should support planB and vice versa. maybe a "Plan B recommends article" on here bi-monthly, or some other time period.
actually then you'd probably get lots of people calling you lot pretentious and guffawing at your selections. infact i'd probably do it out of boredom.
still, good idea yeah?
Not massively sure I get this as an idea. I think internet publications are generally less territorial than print ones but I don't see why there would be any logic to this crossover above any others.
Plan B, admittedly, is probably an identical demographic but, then, DiS covers its own stuff, don't think it needs to bring in another magazine to re-cover it. If it did, it could easily do a It's Not For The Cock recommends or PopCult presents.
Maybe a The DiS Forums Recommend would make more sense. Horray for UGC.
ITS A GOOOOD IDEA.
isnt 'itsnotforthecock' just a blog?
Yeah. I dunno get why Plan B specifically, when there are lots of people out there with relevant opinions.
plan b just has a reputation i guess. i really enjoy reading it to.
this is one massive advantage of print media. Electrocution risk = 0
skyscraper at borders? or just mail order?
p.s. i like plan b, and mojo (sometimes)
but i havent been able to find a more recent one than #26 in any borders, and that is from almost a year ago.
See other thread.
for Stool Pigeon on this thread, that is a great paper...
...i have nothing but respect for The Wire but, again, i'd argue they're doing something different (rather than better).
The Wire focuses on the avant-garde in a way which attempts to be objective and scholarly. Plan B sprawls wildly (including some overlap with The Wire) while admitting it's subjective and writerly.
and, as noted, i like Stool Pigeon, too. i don't think there's any real need to rank the mags - just pick up the ones you like the most (after all, there's only 12 issues in a whole year - or, in the latter's case, 5).
no wire magazine is.
and so is ARTHUR MAGAZINE
is my main one, have recently found this to be pretty ace...
any other readers?
Yes. They got me into Hymie's Basement.
cover the same sort of stuff as DiS?
Bear in mind that NO magazine covers quite the same range as DiS.
to just go look at a copy, really - whether indie rec shop, borders or newsagent... look at the contents, skim the text, follow yr heart...
This isn't a library, y'know.
Really? I wouldn't say DiS were peerlessly wide ranging. It's all indie-centric, even when it branches out from straight guitar music. What style of music does DiS that you wouldn't expect from Plan B?
Lifestyle mags probably have a wider range.
and it uses the word 'yr', which really boils my beans.
Plan B doesn't give scores to its reviews so it allows you to make up your own mind by telling you what it actually sounds like in a positive (sometimes downright glowing) way. I much prefer this to a bunch of snidy knock 'em down journalism.
Anyway 'Kill Yr Idols' surely provides justification for using the abbreviation?
If we're following everything that Sonic Youth did then why is Plan B even selling a magazine: surely it should just be making all the money it needs on t-shirt sales alone?
is where i got it from first, i think, yes.
as for the niiiiiiiiiiiiice: it's not that we love everything (i will be accused of 'hating all music' three times approx each day due to my way with instamatic put-downs) but that we don't have a huuuge amount of pages, and want to cram in as much decent stuff that's too small or weird for the enormo-mags (and thus may not be covered at all in print if we don't).
it wd be really, really, really easy to snipe from the sidelines at bigger/more mainstream bands who most of our readers obviously wdn't like, but given the space available we'd rather pour our energy into positive/support.
...i think i just made the same point twice. VALUE.
I get the being nice thing, that makes sense. It's a tiny bit sickly since it looks, superficially, like the kind of sycophancy that makes me despite most of the music press but it make sense.
'Yr' does make my eyes bleed, though.
Tomaytoes tomatoes I guess.
Makes me despise them, too.
It's good to be positive about stuff, and I applaud it wholeheartedly. But it's difficult when you pick up a magazine and see 60-odd pages all saying that over 200 different things are BRILLIANT. It's like...ok, where do I start here?!
I'm still not having the 'yr' thing though, soz :)
I remember a year or so ago when they had a feature and interview on Sunn O))) / Boris. They took Stephen O' Malley to task for his alleged ambivalence towards racist metal years before. It would have been so easy to just say 'wow this is an awesome record' but, unlike every other interviewer and much to O'Malley's disquiet, they raised this uncomfortable issue.