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Not bad, are they?
they are the first band i ever fell in love with i think
I still reckon slightly overrated. Musically anyway. Marr wrote some great riffs and Mozza some great lyrics and melodies but overall I think bands like The Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen and New Order were far more innovative and influential in the 80s.
This Charming Man is most definately my favourite!
I thought they were actually rubbish to find out that they are realllyy good!
is my favourite so far, closely followed by the queen is dead
is my favourite
Death of A Disco Dancer, Rush & A Push, There is a Light, Reel Around the Fountain, Ask, London. Fuck me they were good. How Soon Is Now is one of the best songs of that decade.
Forgotten about Reel Around The Fountain!
As a friend of mine said, 'only morrissey could make lust sound so articulate'!
How i have gone so long thinking they were a load of Northern miserablists bordering on the pretentious is beyond me
a huge fucking shedful more like.
I've only just gotten into them myself. A mate made me a smiths 'best of' mix cd in 6th form, but I hardly listened to it.
Which song swung it for you? I'd always liked a few songs (Please Please Please......., Ask, Charming Man etc.), but it was only when i heard cemetary gates that I really got into them. Suffice to say, my next visit to Oxford St HMV resulted in some heavy duty Smiths purchasing :)
I found a BASF chrome C90
On one side was Hatful Of Hollow and on the other was The Cure's Head On The Door
it changed my life - I stopped listening to Mr Mister, Huey Lewis and The News, Michael Jackson etc and started to listen to Lloyd Cole & The Commotions, Echo & The Bunnymen, The go-betweens, The Wedding Present, Fall, Spacemen 3 etc
and started listening to John peel
unfortunately The Smiths split up 6 months later
it wasn't until I was 17 that I found out a cousin of mine went out with Mike Joyce for a couple of years but dumped him the week before they did This Charming Man on TOTP (their first appearance)
He had proposed to her and she dumped him as she thought he was totally too much. Apparently he was in a car accident when he was quite young and had come out of a coma while a priest was giving him a blessing and so he had some kind of morbid catholic demonic compulsions.
She didn't even really have any idea about The Smiths - he just said he was 'playing in some band that'll probably never go anywhere'
this post roughly translates as 'your'e making me feel old'
how can you stop listening to Michael Jackson (and, thinking about it, Mr Mister and Huey Lewis And The News)?
listening to pop music was (and still is) always fun
It's just that finding that C90 opened up some of the more obscure rooms in the palace of musical delights and turned me on to being a regular Peel listener
anyway, pop music at that time was starting down the Stock, Aitken and Waterman path so I was saved
Life changing! I'd got into them hearing a few songs again and remembering them from infancy in sixth form... but hatful was a real EVENT
were the first band I got into based upon a review in a music magazine. The 12" vinyl for This Charming Man was the beginning of my Smiths collection in 1983.
I think their influence was very strong. What they showed was that you could hit the UK mainstream and still talk honestly about things like affection between guys. Mozza was very skilled at treading the line of acceptability while pushing at the boundaries. As you say he pushed it on to talk about lust.
I don't rate many bands if any higher than these guys.
Tight as hell too.
Watch some of their live perfomances on the Tube circa 1984. They sound as good live as they do on rec.
that u can't get on the official bbc sesh records that are better than the versions on the records (if u get me):
half a person (peel)
among others but especially those 2.
the fact that there's not a complete bbc sesh disc available is a SCANDAL. mind you it took them 30 years to do it for the beatles.
also this book is a MUST for beginners:
are like Radiohead fans.
Diehard and just a bit... wrong.
dont be silly, most right thinking people are smiths fans, you get a few obsessives but that is true of any sucessful band