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yes its a long time until xmas, but
this will be wonderful.
though don't a lot of people here say that Koko is a shit venue. Tempted to get tickets either way, if only to see Low play Just Like Christmas
and i'm not just saying that because i'm an indiehipsterdouche
you're saying that as it is maybe the best Christmas song ever. I love their Christmas EP.
I feel silly saying that, but it really is the way i feel.
It's a great mini album from a great band.
Close, but it really is Fairytale of New York.
Koko is shit but when Low played Things We Lost In The Fire there in 2006 it was perfect. Just as long as they have their own sound guy.
xmassy by then :P
christmas album = my favourite low album.
Are they actually playing the Christmas album?
they might play a few (or even all) songs off of it what with it being a 'Christmas' gig. Listening to The Little Drummer Boy in Koko would be a new experience if nothing else
didnt mean to imply that; more, low + christams = good.
please lower your ticket prices. thanks.
please get bands to play at places other than koko. thanks.
come down a peg or two. thanks.
low, and the sound, were excellent last time they played koko.
seems a bit of an odd time.. but oh well - i'm sure i'll go :)
for a fair number of corporate dos over christmas i believe.
"You should expect something magical from the minimalist American band with their Christmas Concert"
this would be like a million times more ace in december! :D
(or St Lukes) in December?
This doesn't make sense to me, and I love that record. Bah, humbug!
Hi there, I've got 2 tickets going at face value for this gig if anyone's interested?
doors at 7
IDA at 7:45
low from 9-11
How did shit go down? Heading over to manchester in a bit.
or should be a small amount left on the door.
I'm a pretty recent Low convert and don't know the Christmas EP thing though. And I've been told not to expect them to play many of my favourite Low songs.
Damn you TVOTR!
listening to Christmas songs mid November, but it is really getting me in the mood for tonight - I am really looking forward to hearing some of these songs live. And its got to the point with Low that I don't really care what they play anymore, I've heard all my faves before, so whatever they end up playing in the rest of the set is a bonus.
Also Ida sound quite lovely and appear to be a perfect support choice.
in the day. i'm gonna miss em though cos i'll be working, oh well.
After Alan (sp?) nearly killed someone at EotR Festival?! Good grief.
with retribution gospel choir - on the micah p hinson tour - haven't heard of any more injuries as yet...!
And i never heard anything about it - nothing in the mainstream media at all. The way they jump all over hip-hop or goth or emo gigs. But a religious white male nearly actually kills someone at a gig...
that's all. I agree, it shouldn't have anything to do with it - that's exactly my point. But the media have a hierarchy - from black hip-hop to white male religious.
And 'the guitar didn't hit anyone' is a lame excuse. Have you ever had a guitar skimmed towards you, like a pebble across a lake, at terrifying speed? It's not pleasant, and if you're not fully concentrating, it's lethal.
not that he did either of those things.
having to duck out of the way of a high-speed guitar being flung in your direction, is pretty actually really nearly being killed. But you say potato...
That makes no sense. Neither did the guitar throwing of course
Skimming guitars into crowds at fast speed is potentially lethal. This is a fact. Alan did this at EotR festival. This too is a fact. And i was just surprised that (a) more was not made of it and (b) a large number of (albeit Low fans and DiSers) have either denied it happened, justified it or worse, shrugged it off.
What evidence do you have for this?
in this age of brand and ross-style daily mail outrage from people who werent there, i'm personally glad common sense has prevailed.
i'm sure plenty has been "made of it" to the people who matter, and i'm sure alan, as an ill, but basically decent human being has been able to progress to ensuring that won't happen again. i really dont think a public crusade/outcry is the way forward or a help for anybody who is struggling with mental health issues.
you, of course, have a right to your opinion. but not to tell others what their opinions are/should be. youre very free to come and picket the show. personally, i've weighed up the risk factors, and i'm happy enough to take a chance and enjoy the show.
but he's never apologised or made any kind of statement from what I can see. Neither has his label.
More annoying, the usual media sources (including DiS) haven't even looked for an explanation of the throwing incident. I emailed Pitchfork's news desk a few days after as I was surprised nothing had materialised by then - as a journalist myself, I know a good lead when I see it, and I was baffled by the lack of sniffing.
None of which should indicate that I am after Sparhawk's head. But as he's the songwriter for probably my favourite band, and I was right beneath the guitar's flight path, I kind of feel like I, we deserve some sort of acknowledgment from him that what he did was out of order.
I saw what happened, it was extreme, I know he has problems and I am sure he is sorry but the fact it passed without any statement or explanation seems a bit off, like he hasnt taken it seriously
I didn't want "public crusade/outcry" I just wanted to point out that EotR was only a short time ago - can his mental health really have improved so much since then? If so, fine.
(And by the way, Lichengrave - I was there. And I was in the 'firing line'. It was one of the most horrible things I've ever witnessed... This is why i'm making such a big deal out of it)
He owned up to bringing a flick-knife into the country and carrying it around in his backpocket in glasgow, not realising that it was a bit of a taboo.
he's a champ.
I was disappointed. Frustrated. Annoyed.
I know it's advertised as a Christmas Show, so I should expect some Christmas songs. Even though it's November 19. I know that.
But Jesus Suffering Christ. NINE BLOODY CHRISTMAS SONGS IN A ROW (I may have miscounted, mind). Nearly all of the Christmas EP, both songs on the new double-A, plus 'Happy Christmas (War Is Over)'.
That's A LOT OF CHRISTMAS. IN NOVEMBER.
I can't speak for the rest of the crowd, but I'm just not that Christmassy yet. I'm still in the 'God those christmas adverts are getting earlier and earlier' stage. I'm in the 'There's a whole aisle of Christmas shit in Tesco already!'
So, anyway. Nine Christmas songs means nine less more-well-known Low songs. Murderer, Sandinista, On The Edge Of, When I Go Deaf, Shots and Ladders, Canada, Last Snowstorm Of The Year, Walk Into The Sea and two others I can't remember.
And half of those were played with the support band, Ida. Sounds interesting. Except it neutered the songs, depriving them of sparseness. Those songs don't work as well fleshed out.
And asking the crowd to pray at the end was probably a non-starter.
Towards the end someone shouted 'This is the first Low gig I've been to in eleven years and it's pissing me off.'
I can understand the sentiment.
both the name and the setlist they announced before the tour made me think it would be mostly christmas stuff. i love their xmas stuff.
and also, that non-xmas selection is FANTASTIC. id rather 'shots and ladders','last snowstorm' and 'walk into the sea' than the filler from drums&guns.
I have no problem with the songs - just that because of the volume of Christmas material, there was scant chance to play much else.
I disagree with everything you said, sorry you didn't have a good time, I loved it.
As per your thread, gripes are best left to message boards, not to be shouted by naff hecklers.
That guy I mentioned wasn't as bad as the tool at the beginning of the concert though.
I guess I just don't have the Christmas spirit.
I'd have felt a bit more Christmassy in December, but I did get into the spirit. Yeah, that guy at the beginning was a tool too, I'm glad he shut up.
he was an odd child. looked like he was on something or just actually deranged. anyway he seemed to shut up after a while so it wasn't that bad.
I consider spitting on him. But didn't. Am I bad for thinking it?
He spent the rest of the gig shoving back to the bar, then back to the front, then back to the bar etc. Repeat until dead.
and i admit i'm not one for the Christmas selection but the rest of it still absolutely blew me away. loved every second of it. Shots and Ladders was jawdropping.
there's christmas stuff in shops from mid-september. Do you leave the house often?
Do you sing Happy Christmas War is Over in November?
but I wouldn't get miffed by Low doing it.
Consider this a useful filtering exercise.
Idiots aside (Dear Jamie Summers, can you please try and keep them out in future?), I thought that was an incredible show. Easily one of the top few times I've ever seen them (despite what one wanker was trying to get across about being pissed off - If you were born today seemed a perfect riposte).
I thought Low as a 7 piece worked wonderfully in really fleshing out some of the songs, and having also seen them do shows of total minimalism to the more recent years of noisy guitars, I'm all for having some different takes on their songs.
And as Jordan says, it was billed as a Christmas Show, y'should have really known what to expect. I was rather of the opinion that these would be somewhat out of place in November, but given the quality of the songs I actually couldn't care less what time of year they play them, I'd have been happy listening to those songs played on a beach in the middle of summer.
Maybe I'm just lucky, as I said further up the thread, in that I've seen Low enough times to hear pretty much all my favourite songs played, so I'm generally pretty happy no matter what they play these days. Seeing such a varied set tonight really did reaffirm everything that I love about this band.
my only criticism actually, is that Ida were good as a backing band, but were really just a less good version of Low as a support band. Low should choose someone more contrasting next time!
Yes, you should have, you mupppet! In fact, as a specifically titled Christmas show, you might even have expected an entire set of Xmas/Xmassy songs.
The guy who heckled was a cock. Why the fuck does he think the whole crowd need to hear what he thinks? Don't like it, fuck off and don't ruin it for everyone else. Fuck his sentiment.
(Sorry, but you say you're disappointed, frustrated and annoyed - that's how I feel about the heckler)
IN A ROW.
It could be Christmas day with dancing turkeys, flying crackers and an orgy of Reindeer humping each other AND I STILL WOULDN'T WANT TO HEAR NINE CHRISTMAS SONGS IN A ROW.
And yes, I know it was labelled as such.
On the Edge Of
Walk into the Sea
Shots and Ladders (joined by ida)
One Special Gift
Just Like Christmas
Long Way Around the Sea
Little Drummer Boy
The Coming of Jah
Santa's Coming Over
If You Were Born Today
Taking Down the Tree
Merry Xmas War is Over
Last Snowstorm of the Year
When I Go Deaf
and then complain about what you get! tis a bit silly.
I expected Christmas songs. Of course. Four or five spread about the set, sure. Ten in a row killed the atmosphere for me, though. I don't think I'm being massively unreasonable in venting a little about that.
I think it would have actually been reasonable to expect nothing but Christmas songs
but thought november was a bit early, so I didnt go, maybe you should have done the same, its not like they havent played normal shows recently
Hindsight is 20/20
funnily, so I will let you off. You're still daft, mind.
i would have to say the five-part harmony version of 'long way round the sea' was one of the most amazing things i've witnessed at a show for a very, very long time. completely destroyed me.
at a gig billed as being a Christmas show. Common sense would dictate that Christmas songs would make up the majority of the set?
I wouldn't say I'm in a Christmas mood, but to be honest it isn't as if Low playing Christmas songs would be what I would want to hear if I was!
Two sets, really: an interesting smattering of Trust/Great Destroyer/Drums & Guns numbers, including a fucking gorgeous Tonight and, with Ida (who were great) a massive version of Shots & Ladders. And this time Alan didn't fling his axe at anyone. Bonus.
Then the Xmas tunes. They were as close to fun as I have or will ever see them come. Just Like Christmas was a blast. And in the circumstances it would be churlish to surpress the smiles prompted by Happy Christmas (War is Over) and even their new (ahem) reggae tune. OK, maybe that was actually a bit shit. But then I hate reggae. A lot.
The lightness and the fleshed out line-up made this a nice change from a band you usually know what to expect from, however reliably great that is. Heck, it even made me feel sad to come out of Koko into shitty old November.
but thought it was a really great Low show tonight. I hadn't heard the Christmas stuff before and loved it. I thought they were pretty subdued for the set on their own and was pretty happy with the songs they played. The additon of Ida was something special though and a unique way to hear Low. It worked so well. To top it all off they played When I Go Deaf. Man have I been waiting ages to hear that song live.
Ida were very different from when I've seem them before as a 6-piece, and from what I know of their albums. Obviously, the songs are the same as on record, but last night it was much more delicate and stripped down, without the full band arrangements. I liked that a lot, and I wouldn't have minded if they had started earlier (as advertised up there^) and played for longer.
Low were almost the opposite, the addition of Ida and Eric Pollard made them sound so much fuller, and the vocal harmonies were absolutely amazing as a result. Sharing guitar melodies between Alan and Daniel Littleton worked really well and added another layer of complexity.
And then the Christmas songs. I expected too that they would only play a handful, but I was pleasantly surprised they did every Christmas song they have ever recorded, plus the John Lennon cover. Given the fact that they hardly ever play these songs live, this was the perfect opportunity to get them all out, especially with such an excellent. backing band. I don't really care what time of year it is for this to happen.
The curse of Koko's poor sound was thankfully absent, and the inevitable heckling brief and forgettable. Definitely in my top 5 Low gigs ever.
And I have never once been blighted by this mythical sound problem that everyone talks about
but it has improved hugely recently.
Seeing Deerhoof there a couple of years ago was like listening to them play in a bin.
and getting a lot of sound bleeding from the bar. Just out of interest, who hangs around getting noisily drunk at the back when Low are playing? Fools!
Great show though, thought they owned the Lennon cover, encore was especially good, apart from the 'Lets all pray bit'.
so sans infamous heckle sadly, but just as amazing as i remember. especially 'long way round the sea'.
Also I didn't want you to feel lonely posting in a thread that was a couple of months old. Christmas seems such a long way away now. Especially if you're on Sparhawk time and think Christmas is in November.