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just seems a bit dull to me
to your The Foals ringtone!
I just cannae do it capn!
whether you like them or not
has one of the best openings of any math/hardcore track - insane. you have to see them live, really, to unnahstan.
Live they are incredible, but then they are on cd too.
Dull is the worst possible word you could use for this band.
I'd except you not liking them, but dull?
can they not be described as dull?
maybe unpleasant or rubbish but not dull
And even when they are being as aggressive as possible they still play with intelligence and variety. Have you heard 'Ire Works'?
of their music.You may not like it,but you won't be bored
And I'm saying you have to be a fan
not the rule!
to find this out!
does energy = not dull? Lots of chart pop has energy but is really fucking boring.
I mean more intensity.That said,it may still bore.Different people etc.
dull? i'd rather you'd have said shit.
Sugar Coated Sour.
They seem like a bunch of talentless, posturing pre-adolescents. I am staggered that they are in any way adored.
That said - if you like them good luck to you. Just don't ask to borrow my lawnmower - you'd clearly not clean all the clippings out properly.
for either scenario
a) You're being serious
b) You're not
... and hence you lose at cool.
... i'm with you on the clippings thing. people dont respect mowers enough.
You cannot judge a band on a shitty youtube clip. Dreadful sound quality plus song taken out of context, not a good plan.
Listen to an album properly on decent speakers / headphones and then form a judgement.
and whilst i've never heard a full song i've only seen clips of them playing shouty metal music with an aggresive cunt singer who punches people, so I'm not sure i would. I'm willing to give anything a chance.
When I drunkenly proclaimed "They've only got 1 riff and just recycle it in every song!"
Thought I was going to get mobbed. Although clearly I was wrong, they were still pretty boring to be brutally honest!
They're like the metal version of Don Cab. With an intensity similar to Converge.
I think Botch are my favourite of that triumvirate though.
Have you heard anything Botch recorded before 'We Are The Romans'?
I'm not sure why these bands are always compared mind.
Converge have it all - creativity, back catalogue, distinctive talents within the band.
Dillinger created pretty much a new way of playing guitar in modern metal. 2 classic releases (CI and Irony is a Dead Scene). The heavy moments in Ire Works do sound pretty tired though.
Botch are decent. We Are The Romans is a solid record, but overall I think early Cave In/Coalesce etc were just as good if not better.
If it's silly comparisons we're dealing with, then Minus The Bear are better than Botch anyway :P
as much as i hate agreeing with you.
well, didnt last time i gave them a chance. will have another go now
and its better than i remember, and i get more out of it, but it still sounds like shit compared to converge. no passion.
but the new album is an improvement on the second one..which was terrible
is the only thing worth listening to by this band. People who say "Oh, but they've progressed so much since then!" don't know what they are talking about and are probably Tool fans.
wronnnnnnnnng. Just plain wrong.
There other records are different to Calculating Infitinity, yes, but that doesn't make them bad.
When they take elements of free jazz and mix it with metal(core) in CI they are geniuses; when they take elements of pop and do exactly the same thing they get disowned by people whose idea of fun is scoring hardcore points off each other.
so can't comment, is that near enough to dislike?
I didn't like the vocals.
However, since then I've gotten into stuff like the Locust, Spazz, Refused, Converge etc, so I expect it'll go down better.
I do like a lot of similar stuff but not them in particular. I've seen them as well - go me
But if I want to destroy my hearing there are other methods.
For example: Drop The Lime live @ Fabric, which I'm listening to currently. Ouch.
I wasn't really a fan of Calculating Infinity either but I found both Miss Machine and Ire Works are quite enjoyable particularly the more ambient/progressive tracks.
considering ive seen dillinger most times since 1999 in the UK, and been a big fan of bands like Cave In, Coalesce, Botch etc...
I do find DEP now a bit watered down, less progressive and less dangerous. I really thought the last album was a big let down.
time to put the beast to sleep i say.
but then again, i've never heard anything by them. i don't think they'll be my cup of tea.
even when i listened to alot of metal stuff like them
ire works was inferior to miss machine
But dull is the wrong word, I'd use "shit".
they are tuneless. and like a lot of hardcore & experiemental stuff. doesn't do it for me.
Until Your Heart Stops is the only album of the kind I listen to anymore. Botch and Converge hold up too but Dillinger never did much for me. I liked Miss Machine for a while, but that guys Mike Patoon apeing gets old.