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Somebody please explain it to me because it sounds terrible but everybody says it's good. Help.
It didn't sound like this. Maybe it's because I spend most of my day absent mindling twanging random notes on a guitar that this doesen't sound that special to me.
There are tons of little catchy melodies. They repeat them quite a lot too. Same with the drums. The beats are amazing! Great album. I didn't like it very much the first few times but then it clicked. They were forced to practice all those random notes for months on end before recording apparently. Crazy crazy crazy
maybe I need to "concentrate" on it properly. Hmmm.
Imagine it as like a mad musical dream, I found that helped. Plus, ´Steal Softly Thru Snow´ is one of the most beautiful things ever (¨the black paper between a mirror//breaks my heart that I can´t go,¨ etc) AND your hero Mr Waits probably listened to it far too much at one point. So yeah.
but you have to be careful of trusting someone with elongated apostrophes.
there's nothing I can latch onto, but it also seems so unatmospheric so I can't enjoy listening to it in the moment. Maybe I need to do the whole "listen the way through in the dark with headphones" thing or something. Maybe it will "click" one day, years after buying it.
It's odd cos I really love zappa and all that kind of stuff but I just dont "get" this.
Its just a very good album. That is also hard to get into. ¨She´s too much for mine, or anybodys mirror.¨
I enjoy a lot of so-called 'impenetrable music' but TMR is terrible. It has its moments, but the bulk of the album is simply a pretentious mess. Ironically, that's exactly why most people like it.
you lose at thread.
90% of 'pretentious' usage is made by people who are paranoid that art/music is mocking them in some way. It's FEAR.
this happens all the time, just follow the crowd.
I guess if you have ever travelled to America and particularly across America and are a fan of American culture you might get more of an appreciation of it. To me it sounds very tribal and rootsy and hugely discordant and I love The Captain's voice. I got huge pleasure once to someone taking huge exception to me having The Fall on my Walkman so maybe being obtuse helps too.
surely that was an unpretentious reply?
ive never heard the album, but its cool to like it in indie circles i think, which is what i was saying.
so do one.
i think John was maybe saying that his reply was about to sound pretentious. Chillax.
'Neon Meate Dream of a Octafish' in particular. I don't know why I like that song, but I do.
don't try and understand. you either feel it or you don't, and there's nothing wrong with that.
So, you DO understand it, then...
its a great album! do some more drugs...or go buy Spotlight Kid.
I just don't think it'll ever be one of my favourite albums. I also don't like that from a few replies in this thread it is supposed you are either a person who "gets it" or "doesent get it", which is kind of a bad attitude for music to be made or consumed in.
It's also bloody long. An hour and 20 minutes is a long time for any album, never mind one that is intentionally difficult.
i'm listening to it a bit more commidetly (is that even a word?) now and it's pretty refreshing, considering i've been listening to tom waits and nick cave and leonard cohen and other such "troubadors" playing "proper songs" for the past few months.
I quite like it I guess but I'm not a fan of "music" i.e studying it, analysing things which were "groundbreaking" etc. I'm like it more in the "arty" sense.
Och I dont even know. I'm enjoying it a wee bit now so that's cool.
it's just fucking pop music. I'm afraid it really is a case of either liking it or not liking it. Do you sit around worrying about whether you get Celine Dion or not?
which you can pick out and enjoy. Think of it as being like 'GCSE Bitesize'.
My two year old little brother is proving that you CAN dance to this album. He seems to be enjoying himself.
then come back to it. Safe as Milk is all kinds of brilliant, including the one where you actually enjoy it rather than thinking that you probably should.
I was expecting a kaleidoscope of fireworks and colour
and it is drab monotone slightly fiddly pub rock
i've never really got on with captain beefheart. It used to make me feel bad, but i've learned to live with myself.
this record has much to do with acid.