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Sonic Youth - Washing Machine, for me is superior to Sister,Evol or Daydream Nation
I would say Goo is my fav.
Best Fall album - Hex Enduction Hour.
Best Shellac album - At Action Park
doesn't mean its bad
They make complex music that only highly advanced minds can understand! It's art dude!
that didn't come off as well as I thought :( it was sarcasm
you clearly just dont like them. Nothing to do withyou not understanding them.
Anyway I personally love sonic youth.
And Isaac Brook.
thats so vague!!
Teenage Riot off Daydream Nation is probably my favorite song of all time.
The guys can write songs, and your a douche!
I hope your are a power shower...
One of the things Sonic Youth do so well is variety. Some of their early stuff is painfully raw, some of their later stuff is enormously complex, sometimes they have beautiful tuneful vocals, often they are harsh, spoken or non-existant, they've produced some very avant-garde and experimental stuff (especially on their own label) and some really popppy rock stufff. So... how can you hate / dismiss all of this output and tar it with the same brush?
i don't really care if they're "progressive" or "original" or "art", i just think they're a great rock band.
i also find it hard to believe you'd single out SY for being copycat frauds yet you'll sing the praises of an album that's at best a third rate imitation of the melvins with more of a pop nous.
thats what I want to know... bearing in mind taking an influence from another band isn't 'copying'.........
Rue The Day obviously dislikes Sonic Youth... fair enough, if a bit weird considering the bands he is a fan of- many of which seem to be influeneced on some level by Sonic Youth. But its incredibly stupid to relegate them to being a bad band and so on, just for the above reason (you seem to do this alot, I remember your hip hop is shit thread only too well... I'm sure I don't need to remind you) - they are obviously a brilliant band, and there isn't really much of a counter argument. They've had their bad moments... but crikey, stuff like Daydream Nation and Sister (my fave SY album) just don't get old.
Plus they have a cooler name than any band... Sonic Youth.
ALSO PLEASE EXPLAIN the statement 'self promoting frauds.' It seems idiotic, frankly. And please do not try and argue with me by telling me I'm young and you are old and therefore you know more about the world than I do because I'm just a young upstart... you tried that in the hip hop argument, and just looked silly.
is a total moron.
i could write a 5000 word essay on how fucking ridiculously wrong they are about everything they said.
but im tired, and Austria have just missed 3 sitters in the Euros, so it could actually be a good game, so i'll just say
they took everything good and fun away from hardcore and made a load of bollocks. so suck my nuts everyone
they might have played with a lot of "hardcore" bands in the 80's, but they were never part of that scene or sound.
they played with/sounded like/were influenced by Swans and PiL and all the NY art and avant-garde bands.
how any/which albums of theirs have you listened to from start to finish more than once?
my guess, you've heard Dirty and Goo once, and think every album sounds the same.
they're 2 of my least favourite albums by SY
they're such an original sounding band, they don't sound like anyone else, they dont rip anyone off, and even though they have a "Sonic Youth sound", every album is very different.
they think they are the best band ever and anyone who doesnt like them either 'doesnt get it', hasnt listened to them or has a rubbish taste in music.
i dont even dislike them much, its just this attitude people hold towards them pisses me off.
if there are so many fans and legions of people that love them, then surely you realise they're not "massively poo", they're just not to your taste.
(when i was being reasonable and not just trying to irritate) theyre not bad. just it gets boring hearing people say how you cant just not like them, you must have something wrong with you, or must not have listened to them enough.
i like hardcore... but sonic youth just dont sound like a non-fun hardcore band.
is that they are in no way as complicated as people make out. They're actually fairly easy to get into. So I don't buy into people not getting them. Equally, I'd say anyone who likes hardcore or 80s alternative would be pretty likely to enjoy Sonic Youth.
As a band, I don't think what they write was necessarily as important as how they did it. They were groundbreaking in being successful and independent whilst signing to a major label. They deserve respect for that, certainly.
And I should add that people do and can dislike them. But it's not cause they 'don't get it'
and to a certain extent i do respect that they were successful, a lot of people think they have been consistently excellent etc. but it just pisses me off how people act as though if you dont like them you are wrong in the head or something.
but that doesnt stop them being one of my favourite bands. they've released that many albums, the odd blip (the first EP, Confusion is Sex, NYC Ghosts & Flowers) doesn't really matter.
if you'd have just said "i dont like them" rather than "they're massively poo", i wouldnt have written stupid paragraphs of rant. not liking SY definately doesnt mean you're wrong in the head.
just i get the impression that a lot of SY fans wont accept that someone just doesnt like them.
Do I nominate my own album that I think is better than commonly acknowledged 'best' albums by that artist? Or do I join in slagging off rue the day for not liking Sonic Youth?
I'm certain of it.
it's probably one of the top 3 albums of the 90s
I'd even rate 1965 above it. What was i thinking?
is better than OK C or BENDS