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why do you do this ALLLLL the time?i know its all about opinion but seriously stop it please
why do you do this ALLLLL the time? etc.
...but were leaning closer to generalising than you were to non-generalising. In general, it's good practice to round these cases up to 'generalising' and so in general, I'd say you generalise more than you're generally led to believe.
first post was better
What do you do when the first album actually is better though?
Or are we all going to have start loving the Second Coming?
"i preferred the book". even if the book was light years better, if you say this - You are a prick
my friend he used to like a band but only 'their early stuff'. Seperately his band put on their influences '(different band) early stuff'
so he only likes bands early stuff. normally the time period before they actually learned the art of song writing.
ps, i don't think this post makes any sense.
what i mean to say is: people who are pretentious for the sake of being pretentious, or say something so they can be the one who said it, generally suck. the guy for example who is the first to say "the book was better" when the book obviously was better so he could be the one to say it was better. he sucks
a bands first album is generally the best songs they've ever written in their lives up to the point it was recorded. the second album is the best songs they could write whilst being on a tour for a year.
and if the first album is a success, oasis being the best example, the band get all the attention/fame/money/drugs they dreamed of and it inevitably shows in their songs.
not that i think about this all the time..
Is this a path you are hoping to follow? :)
The Big Sleep
First single is the best one.
Got progressively Not-As-Good.
all those others...
is the first album the one with blind on?
Guns n' Roses
Ooooh, and Hot Hot Heat.
though to be fair i listen to life is peachy and follow the leader more...
Exampple is that I like My heart Has A Wish That You Will No Go more than others because it is the album that made me fall in love with the band. I sill like the other stuff, but it was not the stuff I feel in love with.
Hence all the twats liking the newer Feeder stuff whereas I grew up with the older stuff...
And if not who are you? I'm scared :S
as usually bands have been building up to it for a few years
Fever To Tell and T.O.T.B.L also.
There will be more but as a general rule I don't necessarily think a bands debut album is their best.
Case in point:
Interpol, The Beatles
The Rakes, At The Drive-In
Guns 'N Roses, Smashing Pumpkins
acrobatic tenement is shit
interpol, the rakes + GNR were good, now shit
beatles, ATDI + pumpkins were shit, but now good. altho i dont agree that the pumplins and atdi were ever 'shit'
making a contrast between yes and no
But all three bands with weaker first albums have never been shit.
Gish > Siamese Dream > Mellon Collie > Adore > Machina > Machina II > Zeitgeist.
So yeah, one long steady decline for Billy and chums. Started out bloody high up though: first four albums are all wicked.
There are some strong cases though: Interpol, Strokes, Elastica, Gang of Four. Along with several others where you can easily argue the case: REM, Kate Bush, Pavement. So this is a silly argument.
Lots of the responses to this thread are citing artists who have made two or three albums. What's the point?
If you look at artists with true longevity you'd be hard-pressed to honestly hold the first album=best opinion about any of them. The Rolling Stones, Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, The Cure, etc.
It's simply not true in all cases worth talking about, so SHANDYHOLMES is right. People should stop it.
is still more than arguably one of if not their best album. They've been past their greatness for a few years now, but Murmur is so timeless it still sounds fresh today. It's the R.E.M. album I find myself drawn to most often... the tracklisting is formidable, including
Radio Free Europe
I feel like R.E.M have been on an almost unbroken downward trajectory since Murmur.
Still quite like them though.
they happen to believe it's true
New adventures is their second best.