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Say you, as a member of a largely unknown band, were offered a support slot with The Enemy - would you take it?
tak down the sistem from the insid innit
The chance to play YOUR music to a huge room filled with impressionable teens who might actually enjoy it = something everyone would do.
i would love to support a shit band and bring my hardcore accordion band to the masses.
...hmm you'd be exactly the same band you were before you played the show.
*You* know that, but I suspect that a fair few existing fans would feel quite let down and disappointed by it. And people who were interested in hearing and becoming more familiar with your music beforehand might not be so keen once they find out what you've been up to, leaving you to the live the rest of your life amongst the ranks of The Enemy and The Fratellis. Or the strength of your music could shine through. But it might not.
I get what you're saying, but 8 or 9 times out of 10, true fans can see the funny side :)
The Dears supported Keane.
But how else will you afford to feed that MASSIVE HIGH HORSE?
^ actually the funniest person on this whole board.
more power to your stance. It's surprising how little control bands have over who they're booked with, anyway - at least once they're at the support tour level.
one of the most disappointing things i have learnt from playing music is that supporting a big band in a big venue isn't really that fun.
getting there at 2 in the afternoon, still not getting a soundcheck, going on stage at like half 6, getting hassled by security when backstage, playing to a room of people who couldn't care less. getting paid £20 despite having to bring your whole backline and then having your gear ejected from the stage or even venue by over zealous roadies the minute you finish your set.
I would pretty much only play a support slot in a big venue now if i really liked the band who were headlining and wanted to meet them.
Who did you support?
but i've done a few gigs to 2000-3000 size venues.
Its more the situation that is shit, i couldn't really slag off the bigger bands we've played with as people, except to say they hogged the soundcheck, which i'd probably do if i wa headlining the astoria or something.
If you'd gotten that far, you'd feel you were entitled to take your time and make sure everything is perfect. It's the people behind the scenes who are the real idiots.
That sounds like a 'fun' experience andrew. Who were you supporting?
i wasn't in LP when they supported klaxons. Incidentally i don't think LP knew what a soundcheck was.
I didn't want to sound like a prick bigging myself up but for the record we've supported the gossip, siouxsie sioux, the horrors,BRMC, Long Blondes, white rose movement, these new puritans and many others.
It's completely rubbish and 9 times out of 10 you will be treated like a bunch of horrible little worthless sniders.
But the actual gig part and getting to play to so many people is worth it, imo.
i've already alluded to this, but we were supporting the Young Knives tomorrow, which is cool, cause I like them, and it was at Leicester University, so all was ace.
But our guitarist doesn't like one of the other support acts, and when the promoter rang up to confirm the gig, he said that 'they weren't his cup of tea'. Said promoter was in that band, and promptly had us cancelled, but didn't tell us until today, the day before the gig.
Does that answer your question?
i've supported them, and they are actually really nice. and si is their crew, so it will be fun!!!!
Or was his language more fruity? Cos the promoter sounds like a walloper.
that thats what he said. The promoters said that he was very offensive about the band, but could only muster 'they're shocking' as a quote, but I'm sure he's more tact than that.
Either way, walloper indeed.
how dare someone have a bad word to say about his beautiful band eh? Walloper.
its also the kind of situation that, at such short notice, you find yourself struggling to explain away to people who've already bought tickets without sounding like a set of pricks!
Oh well. What happens on Thursday nights that I can now be happy I can enjoy instead?
Too many people in music have this horrible fascination with pretending they like everything and every crap band just to keep people happy so that they like them. I'd rather be respected than liked by anyone (what a lol). Just tell people they booted you off! Bastids.
I see you're in Nottingham. I went there once and hated it, so i don't know sorry hahaha :)
i'm in rural south Leicestershire at the minute. I could go chase some pheasants around a country lane and return home in time to watch Adrian Chiles on the One show.
from uni and I'm off to see the Young Knives minus your support tomorrow. I feel your pain. Do what I do and find a dingy locals pub and drink cider till you forget where you are.
...i did that for the first time on Saturday, my parents have moved from my glamourous childhood home of Broughton Astley to some godforsaken no mans land between Barwell and Earl Shilton, and I'd not braved the locals until now!
Dunton Bassett. Going slowly insane with the boredom of it all. I have caught and killed every living thing in a two acre radius and drank all the cider I can afford. My countryside entertainment options are thus exhausted.
don't make me laugh :p
Check my profile.
I AM Dunton Bassett Cricket Club :)
I saw the Young Knives in Loughborough last year so wasn't going to bother this time around, but when I saw you were supporting* thought seriously about seeing if there were any tickets left on the door tonight. I smelt a rat with two local bands claiming to be first support and have no real desire to see the other band anyway.
(* But mostly because Johnny Foreigner have put their gig the same night back a month, to be honest)
its all a bit rubbish, but what can you do without sour grapes being assumed?
We had a good amount of people who bought tickets as well, nice to be told yesterday! Sorry we can't fill that Johnny Foreigner hole for you tonight.
I'd probably take the Enemy. I might feel different about the Hoosiers or Scouting for Girls. But I don't think the Hoosiers or Scouting for Girls would ever offer us a support slot so it's not really an issue...
I think the thing is, at the stage we're at,it's highly unlikely we'd get offered a support band with anyone unless the band themselves were really enthusiastic about what we were doing. And if the band in question were enthusiastic and wanted us to play then we'd do it.
Consider it this way.
You'll be showing fools the path of righteousness. You're not the Samaritans, but it's your duty to save as many souls as you can.
I'm glad we've sorted all that out.
to how well you can pull off clearly knowing you're in an unusual situation. If you were indeed too precious about your "art", you may be accused of taking yourself too seriously and miss out on some good opportunities to play to some good people (who liked crap music). I despise U2, but if my band were supporting them, we'd loltimes x 6 and it would be a hilarious time all round. I may even go so far as to throw things at Bono.
In saying that though, there are plenty of bands i wouldn't play with due to intimidation or not feeling like it would be worth it. Bands like The Enemy though.. am i the only one who realises how funny that would be? Or is everyone too scared of brassnecking it?
Hello, hello (Hola!)
We're at a place called Vertigo (Donde esta?)
Lights go down, and all I know
Is that you give me something
I can feel your love teaching me how
Your love is teaching me how, how to kneel, kneel
Clearly not THIS generation.
Surely I'm not the only one who enjoys the challenge of playing to new audiences? I don't give a damn for money & fame but anything that sounds out the ordinary tends to appeal to me purely 'cos it's a challenge.
I'd only do such things on my own terms and have turned down potentially decent 'exposure' gigs before 'cos they didn't sound/feel right but part of me enjoys playing gigs to non-'indie' audiences 'cos it's interesting to see what reaction you get.
do it. It'd be a laugh if nothing else and you'd get to do what you love, in front of lots of people.
if there music was a bit crap but they were cool then I would take it..
however, if were twats and there music was uberrubbish then...no
you wouldn't even see the band, nevermind meet them.
band supported Razorlight on a date of one of their tours. It gave them some exposure to people who would never have otherwise heard them and earned them some money to pump back into the band. No problem as far as I can see.
you should play as many gigs as humanly possible. You can pick and choose when you're Radiohead eh.
My friends band were asked to support LCD Soundsystem in newcastle (they are from london)
they took two days off work to drive up there and back, had to bring all their gear and were only getting paid £50.
half way up the motorway the promoter phoned the say LCD didn't want them to play because their gear would take up too much room on the stage.
This is the gear they were only bringing because LCD wouldn't let them use their drumkit, and it would have taken two minutes for them to move their gear off after they played.
THIS IS THE SORT OF SHIT THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
also know another band who didn't get a soundcheck when they supported 30seconds to mars at BRIXTON ACADEMY.
I'm thinking now that I'd probably just leave it.
you could also play a gig with one of your favourite bands ever spending all evening hanging out in their dressing room and drinking their rider, and have them telling you how awesome you are andbuying your merch.
this has also happened to me, all be it only once.
FUCK LCD SOUNDSYSTEM
theyre shit and ive never liked them. so this is the final straw.
and it is dumb to drive all the way to Newcastle for that, but yeah, promoter should have checked all this way in advance. What a twonk.
Hey, at least he told them before they arrived ;)
I'm pretty sure that "The boy least likely to" supported James Blunt on a tour. What happened to them.....
turned them into custard.
get exposure, take their fans, take their money, be better than them. win.
I play with bands I think are fucking shit most of the time, so why would this be any different?
It's fine to stand on a soap box when you're not in the position to make decisions like this...
Just do the gig, it's experience, money, it won't harm your rep unless u buddy up with them and produce another chav album to flog at hmv.
Maybe myspace link us up and get some free promo on here?! always on the lookout for new acts...
they were really nice, got her more money,
She supported Jimmy Cliff on a whole tour got (I think £50) and he never came and said hello.
It's how it works, I'd take absolutely anything that's gonna guarantee you playing to a big audience, whether the band are shite or good
it's a gig, and almost certainly an experience.
sometimes we don't even know who we're playing with..and a lot of times they are just as bad .
Mogwai for supporting Manic Street Preachers on tour. Was probably ten years ago!
So I am saying, no, dont do it.
when the manics were actually good?
I would've killed to have made one of those gigs.
to play to a room full of people without a proper soundcheck, which sounds the norm from the above. So you get damaged by association of supporting a shit band, and those that do actually watch think you are shit because the sound is rubbish and you are pissed off.
Screw that, go to the pub.
Mind you they weren't as big then (as we were both supporting 'Dogs' ffs) but as it turned out it was a good old gig!
So yeah in my opinion - take it.
of course you'd support a big, shit band. I mean, Arcade Fire supported U2.
Do it! And blow them off the stage, the Enmey are cack.
supporting Arcade Fire?
playing big places is sex
go for it
supported Towers of London, The Checks, Hadouken.
Doesn't matter if I'm a fan or not. You get to play to loads of people and blow the other band off stage and make some news fans.
Then call Rat Boy names on stage and offer him out, see how much of a hard ass working class boy he is then
band supported Chesney Hawkes, love it.
to say, the words Bravery and genius should never collide, if they did...well......well actually it would be a lie so nothing would happen.
Also, you could say 'The Bravery are so far from being anything like a genius'...then the two words would collide, but that statement was truthful...Oh well.
and then tell the audience how crap Yeasayer were on stage? That was fairly recently, yes?
Maybe I'd do that. But maybe my band or whatever would never get offered any more support slots afterwards.
that was originally a Psychedelic Horseshit headline show.
i lol-ed everywhere
then i would.
However The Enemy and their success is just depressing and i wouldn't want the attention that badly.
integrity and poverty go hand in hand. We'd go with the lot that say "you know you're better than them, throw down the gauntlet to the other band and make the audience remember you instead". It'd be too easy to say no.
The only reason I may turn it down is the hidden charges, I read that Das Wanderlust, when they toured with Maximo park, had to do a hard sell with the merch as Maximo Park charged them for use of their soundman every night and they only found this out on the first night of the tour. Is this a usual agreement?
don't have enough faith in my own music to think it's worth making a career of though, so i don't see the point in supporting a band i hate, having to be in the same room as them and run the risk of having to actually encounter them as human beings, when i don't need/want the exposure and i could probably make more money doing something worthwhile.
but having said that, I don't think anyone could phsyically support them..
I've been Basil. Goodnight.
I wish I'd seen this thread before as it wasn't long after my band supported a band I absolutely loathe. But it was our first gig and it would have been silly to turn it down. We showed them up by filling the place with loads our friends who left after our set, leaving the main band with a quite pitiful crowd :D
the bands they support often goes a fair way towards shaping my opinion of them (along with who their Facebook friends are). I know it's silly and I should just listen to the band and develop my opinion that way, but I find it difficult to avoid making a grouping in my head.
If I liked a band but they were allegedly idiots, I think I'd like the challenge. If I didn't like a band but they seemed like nice people, I'd be more than happy to do it. Why not?
How different it all could have been.
... cos you'll be meeting them again on your way down.
looks impressive aswell
plus whats your band called???
my old band supported gO:AuDiO in luton last october and it didnt do us know harm and got good expousure so you should go for it!