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I would assume there's a prize or something
'Whiplash, only work for da cash
Quick flash, grab the loot then dash
it's all about the money (Ching Ching)
or dat house & da car & all the bling bling!'
I will say that if you don't 'get' D&B in general you probably have a lack of understanding of what makes a lot of music so utterly vital - rythm. The best D&B can create amazing patterns in your head as you try to decipher the rythmical ebb and flow. But since talking about it does little more than make me seem patronising, just seek out Aphex Twin's 'Vordhosbn' and get an education.
together in a dance sense, then, I'm not gonna try and convince you otherwise.
because yes, it is.
= not shit
just i dont like it very much..i used to when i was about 12.
and if you don't like it, how can i prove it's not shit?
The truth is all opinion, innit...
most d'n'b is shit. because most "things" are shit. that's why the good things are "good".
here's why d'n'b has some redeeming moments:
it is the shit !
slappin up the bass
Or " ^ this ", if you prefer.
Also, early Squarepusher, as linked already.
David Bowie, of course:
Though that's all crossover shiz with other genres, really. Actual straight-up d'n'b that's any good... Brown Paper Bag, obviously, but to my mind the best choon is:
And if you're not bored already, I'll finish with an anecdote - I was once in Sainsbury's and found a shelf containing cuddly toys such as elephants, tigers an' ting. They each came in a box saying "squeeze me to hear my jungle sound". I squeezed one, looking forward to some phat riddims, but it just went "rrrrrr". I so nearly sued the fuckers for false advertising.
have multiple people at Uni have the same idea of "mixing the basslines from dub onto drum and bass tracks"?
Now it seems any shite dance music is labelled as Drum and Bass where as it used to be so much more. I think.
there is variation within in, but if you've heard a few tracks and dont like anything about them, then dont bother.
maybe you'd be interested in some drum and bass hybrid industrial rock? cant think of anything good tho. pitchshifter or something? or some squarepusher/aphex twin/warp "drill n bass" stuff? then afterwards you might have a bit more appreciation for the sounds?
Not sure about the music. However, the local rag (Lancs Evening Post) has a column written by a taxi driver. It is as dull as it sounds but he mentioned this week that he saw a punch up outside the local d'n'b night. He said this often happends outside on the night of the d'n'b themed nights. He said it should all be banned from Preston as it attracts trouble.
Incidentally, there was a shooting inside a club that was holding BASSLINE night recently.
"it's shit". Read the post.
Stuart Foster on the other hand is not!
To the poster of the thread:
What point are you trying to make?
Do you like it? Not sure? Think you might?
I'm not trying to make a point, I'm asking you to show me that it's good. Make a case for my current attitude towards it to go away.
I'm going to expand on my earlier reply a bit...
It depends on what you're calling drum'n'bass. As pointed out before, Squarepusher, Aphex Twin, etc. all make incredible music around that bpm, and whilst obviously heavily influenced by d'n'b, I'd refer to what they're doing as IDM or 'braindance'. Still, if you're not familiar with them, here are a couple of videos:
As for proper drum'n'bass that is still cutting edge and progressive, then ten years ago there were people such as Photek and Source Direct who have huge back catalogues of cinematic, jazz fusion inspired drum assaults with great swathes of bass. Some of their stuff is just incredible, and is still being imitated but unsurpassed by many breakcore artists today.
Then you've got stuff from the same sort of era that is more of a 'jungle' vein, e.g. Remarc, DJ SS, etc. Again, incredibly progressive in terms of the drum processing, but with ragga toasting and more notable dub influences, and a slightly 'rawer' sound.
Nowadays you've got people like Paradox, Breakage, Fanu, etc. who are continuing where Photek et al left off. What they make is sometimes referred to as 'drumfunk' as it's mainly about cutting up old funk drum solos and creating new and interesting patterns from them, a la:
Then you've got all the classics like early Dillinja, J Majik, Calibre, etc. I could go on for hours but I doubt anyone's got this far. Anyway, it's a whole world of great music. Enjoy.
DnB = 180BPM
granted, a lot of the dancefloor orientated stuff is pushing 180bpm but there's a shitload of d'n'b around today that's at a much more reasonable 160-170bpm.
Interestngly several d'n'b producers and DJs have formed a new 'J-Tek' subgenre paying homage to classic jungle techno which is at a much slower pace. For anyone interested: http://bbpodcast.Astream.com/Randall%20J%20Tek%20Podcast_030308.m4a
has a place on my ipod cos its good to run to in the gym. Ed Rush, Optical, etc, etc.
to use in the gym, no?
reminds me of happier times. and would make a fantastic guitar riff.
I nearly spunked when I realised I had done it.