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Or have experience of this?
Having trouble getting ours to cut through the noise using an avergae PA.
If it's not an electric violin then they're a real pain, because they seem to feedback like mad.
And yes, although I have something which can supress the feedback.
Its more that it sounds like a scratchy shitsack a lot of the time.
they sound a bit crappy apparently - it's best to use a normal violin with a good pick up.
Any hints in terms of EQ or Pre-amps?
The poor fella has to cut through serious noize at some points!
we've always been able to play by just plugging a lead from the pick up straight into the desk or a DI box. I think the trick is to get a really nice pick up - violinists are all stinking rich so I'm sure they'll have the money.
*awaits 'terrifying' horde of pasty posho fiddlers*
and is not stinking rich :(
in that case it might be worth looking into preamps then - maybe speak to someone at Johnny Roadhouse or something. It's never been a problem for us, but then again we don't have any guitars (which I suppose can be pretty similar in frequency/tone to a violin) which might explain why the violin comes through OK. Or perhaps - boring alert! - you just need to turn/tone everything else down to make a little room for the violin?
Everythings about the lowest level it can be and yeah, the electic and guitar are basically fighting for frequencies.
a violin is never going to be a "cutting-through" type instrument - it just doesn't have that sort of sound (essentially, it doesn't have much in the way of high harmonics and of course there's no percussive attack). If you want it to be heard as a distinct instrument when there's loads of guitar noise going on then you're going to have to make some space in the mix for it, e.g. by turning the guitar treble right down.
dropping the guitar treble.
Would not say that our guitarist is overly trebly but yeah, I'm seeing this might work.
I don't suppose anyone knows which frequencies we are talking about here?
You need to get a decent pickup fitted to the violin.
and it was a fucking nightmare trying to get it to cut through.
Most soundmen are fucking rubbish with anything apart from standard fare guitar, bass drums anyway
some soundmen are also really good.
We use a violin, but just point a vocal mic towards it. You can hear it in the quiet bits!
both a violin and a cello. basically you can get a good sound out of strings live you just need to buy a decent pickup (you need to spend about £100 at least to get a pickup that'll sound good live) and when you play just DI it and be a little bit fussy with the engineer to make sure you get the EQs right.
stole these tips off the guys in Los Camps by the way.
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in my band (shamelessly, I plug: http://www.cogwheeldogs.com). Very tricky to get the acoustic instrument to cut through. My experience of pickups was that the sound was nasal and scratchy.
I'm now using an electric cello for live (Yamaha, their cheapest one). It's not going to win prizes for a true-to-life acoustic tone. But - especially live, alongside other instruments - that's hardly the point. Main thing is I can guarantee that a sound guy will always get a decent signal.
I can also use pedals and gizmos to mess around with/control my own sound far more easily than I was able to with my acoustic cello + pickup/mic combination.
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