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me and my friends were having this arguement last night... opinions?
whilst minor threat have had a massive influence over the whole of the 'punk' genre,it is still comparatively small to Radiohead who have sold 25 million albums and had a far greater influence on more bands (most of whom are completely shit) and popular culture as a whole.
*millions more records sold, so much further reaching influence
*gateway band getting lots of young musicians into more experimental music
*written much more music
obviously minor threat had plenty of copyists, but minor threat's music was just a slightly differnt take on Bad Brains anyway. radiohead aren't as directly derivative of one band that most of their audience knows about as mt
but could you argue that the punk movement has influenced everything after it, directly or indirectly?
you can say that a band is more influential than another just because they started earlier.
minor threat as a band weren't incredibly important in making punk what it was - if you're talking about influence then you either want an original band (stooges) or a famous band (sex pistols).
if you're going to bring Dischord into it, that can be countered by Radiohead's In Rainbows release, and minor threat =/= dischord. you could just as easily try and claim that The Teen Idles were more influential or something
i mean its likely that oasis are more influential than a band just starting out, its natural.
And i did bring up the point about the stooges and others being the bands that could be said to start the movement, but i think in terms of hardcore, they along with black flag pretty much defined the movement and were responsible for a change in how music was looked at, that was more their own doing, rather than in rainbows simply being an extension of the way the industry is going.
but you were talking about how punk changed everything else - this was nothing to do with minor threat
if by your admission they were influential inside punk and really contributed to its growth, and punk was a massively important movement, surely their influence is massive.
thats not even including dischord.
not as many people listen to the teen idles as minor threat. 'Straight Edge' is argubly the most influential punk song of all time, and is a minor threat song. I would say that even a lot of people who have heard minor threat don't know who the teen idles or bad brains are. Minor threat's influence over say, skate culture, is far greater than any other hardcore band, except maybe Black Flag.
'in rainbows' doesn't come close to the influence dischord records has had over the music industry, Dischord is the model on which the indie record industry is based, while the way 'In rainbows' was released is really a new, novel idea that only a big band with lots of cash would be able to try.
however, 'ok computer' is probably the most influential album of the opast 10 years, and by far and away eclipses minor threat's influence.
bite me everyone
but i actually think radiohead are really shit.
minor threat are on of my favourite bands. so yes i agree
radiohead = rubbish.
i love indie and i can't stand them.
teen idles is to minor threat as minor threat is to radiohead in terms of people actually listening.
dischord wasn't the first indie label, just a very good one
I like Minor Threat, I listen to experimental music.
Radiohead never did anything for me, so in my own opinion it's Minor Threat.
minor threat encouraged a whole new though process to music and the lifestyle that surrounds it so why i prefer radiohead out of the two i would say minor threat are far more influential
you're right. congrats!!!
i love radiohead, i have for a long long time. but can anyone name any particularly big movement that they've begun?
and with regards to them being a gateway band, it's a very good thing but i don't feel that it's particularly 'influential' in terms of music or attitude. it's just opening people's eyes so they realise that there's more than just pop acts and bands that sound like the pigeon detectives. a good thing, but nowhere near what minor threat accomplished
I wasn't even going to answer because I didn't think anyone would seriously say Minor Threat.
I've no idea what they even sound like.
Is this really even a question? The only time you're likely to hear a MT name-drop is on Henry Rollins radio show where he's forever reliving SST's glory days. Or on some kid's t-shirt who wasn't born when they played. See also: The Misfits, The Germs.
than another boring indie band say oh yeah radiohead influenced us
but that wasn't the question posed, eh.
but ignoring this i think their influence is more than just name dropping anyway, as you can see in points expressed above. i have a minor threat t shirt, and wasnt born when they played... but that doesnt mean i dont like them.
he simplified the question to simply name dropping, i was being fascetious in saying that most of the people name dropping radiohead are less interesting than minor thread.
also i like how you choose my stupidest post, when ive made other points previously
it should say henry rollins
im sure in the distant future when the world has long since forgot about radiohead there will still be angry nerds with backpacks playing hardcore
in many years to come. Particularly the stuff Kid A onwards. How many of these 'average indie bands' even sound like radiohead. You can be influenced by something without sounding like them.
Plus its not like minor threat havn't indirectly given the green light to loads of average 'punk' bands playing one dimensional three cord shitpieces