Your are viewing a read-only archive of the old DiS boards. Please hit the Community button above to engage with the DiS !
overrated at the time?
now seriously underrated compared to how blur and pulp are considered?
then it all went wrong...VERY wrong.
Butler's exodus signalled the end.
Head Music too. After that they didn't do much.
Christ it's been too long!
it means Alex-in-Ciderland!
Definitely one of my favourite bands ever. Coming Up was the first album that got me into music and Dog Man Star may be my favourite album ever.
Their later stuff occasionally boredered on self-parody and was sometimes terrible but even late on there was still a smattering of very good songs.
Definitely massively under-appreciated now.
all the kids these days love jarvis cocker still and oasis are still well everpopular.
I absolutley love suede though, as someone mentioned dog man star is utterly amazing. Baffles me how Pulp, blur are so rated compared to suede when id say neither pulp or blur have an album that comes close to 'suede' or 'dog man star'.
post bernard theres still some cracking songs perhaps if they'd called it a day when he left though they'd be alot 'cooler' now?
I think everyone tends to mythologise bands that split up early (obviously 'cos they don't have time to fuck up their legacy!)
proved a bit too dark / bisexual / ambitious to be masseef. For the same reason no-one goes on about Bowie's Diamond Dogs, not many people go on about Dog Man Star. But when Suede tried to shake off the dark stuff and be 'happy' with a New Morning - well we all know h9ow lame it seemed. Lost In TV weren't bad though!
Also, it's not cool to discuss any 90s band: the 80s are having their turn to be cool. Wait until the 2010s!
so that isn't why people like them.
I'm not sure what my argument was there.
I've never understood why most hardcore fans prefer Dog Man Star. The terminal flatulence had already been diagnosed by that point, although the most pitiful symptoms wouldn't manifest themselves for a couple of years yet...
smart. And right.
before the end. thats why.
2 average ones
1 very very bad one
I think they sound quite dated these days, though it may be because every indie club ever insists on playing Beautiful Ones, probably one of the most irritating songs of the 90s
Coming Up was great, and it was the album that was perfect for the time. However, it was the start of them becoming just an ordinary band. I think the reason they are almost forgotten is that they never really had much appeal to the casual observer. They had a very large hardcore following who have all grown up but the don't seem to have attracted a posthumous fanbase of young indie kids. It was amazing to see how little attention The Tears got.
I LIKED The Tears album! Don't know what is so wrong with it, apart from a few dodgy lyrics by Brett. Refugees, Autograph, Lovers, The Asylum, The Ghost of You & Apollo 13 were all brilliant i thought
although for the first two (even three) albums it was a GREAT trick.
It was when they tried to change that they screwed up. It was inevitable though - you can't keep doing the 'we're beautiful outsiders, no-one understands us, but we love each other' stuff for ever without getting very repetitive.
Which is exactly what Refugees was......but i still loved it for some reason!