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First list to come out, albeit because the place is sadly closing today of course :(
Not a bad album top 50 I thought.
it's all a bit obvious, when you consider what they review and how less well-known records that they gave great scores to have been left off the list in favour of more obvious picks they seemingly didn't think were as good.
which makes me wonder whether it was done on a vote system. which makes me wonder what the point was.
but what's wrong with that? What other choice did they have, except getting all of their disparate contributers from around the world in a room to slug it all out for a few hours?
there's far less conviction in it when you dilute it like that.
i don't know why they have to rank them though. why not just have a top 50 albums? music ain't a competition.
they'd still have to dilute it, still have to rely on the 50 which got the most votes. You could say "just choose 3 albums which nobody else chose and they'll definitely feature on the list", but then who gets to choose what etc.
I really don't see the problem. It is a popularity contest, and that's the way it should be. We should see what the majority of people liked rather than what a few really liked. It makes it more of a broad document of the most culturally important albums of the year to the people within the Stylus engagement zones - you can't listen to everything, but these are some of the more visible albums which the Stylus writers liked
i'd much rather have a few picks from each writer (doesn't matter what they pick) than any sort of committee decision. it might be a broad document, but it's not exactly saying anything new at all. no one's going to notice something they wouldn't have otherwise, and this top 50 is going to be very similar to those on Pitchfork, Metacritic blah blah blah.
when you do it like this you end up with a fluff piece.
i reckon the list would be near identical, only without any rankings.
But, if they all thought that Sound of Silver was the album of the year then that should be recorded. It's important, no?
But i definitely would have liked to see some blurb on the earlier albums
sure, if they did think that. ultimately though, it strikes me as a little bland all things considered, and i don't think it really makes any 'cultural statement' because of that. by sacrificing individual voices, you lose all the passionate conviction behind a pick. sure, they've got statements for the top 10 and that's fine, but it's a list that seems to think an album's profile relates to its cultural significance or importance. which is a bullshit attitude, frankly.
(and being at work i can't really discuss it at length)
but i don't think it's completely incorrect to align "cultural significance" with an album's profile. What is cultural significance, after all? You could argue that the more people that listen to an album, the more likely it is to be of cultural significance, because culture is something like "the mass shared experience of art and entertainment"
Either way, i do agree with your point, and would have liked to see a top 20 as well as a few personal picks, the best of both worlds as it were. But i'm fairly happy to have it like this as well
"it's a list that seems to think an album's profile relates to its cultural significance or importance. which is a bullshit attitude, frankly."
THAT's a bullshit attitude, frankly. Totally wrong. We just voted for our favourite 20 albums of the year. My post below points out all the reasons it's not too "obvious" or predictable.
but as i said, voting on something like this dilutes any conviction behind a decision.
As you say yourself, "Sound of Silver won not because everybody thought it was a A, but because it drew the strongest consensus that it was no less than a B" - Sound of Silver won because enough people thought it was at least 'very good' rather than an excellent work. I don't think The Sound of Silver is 'less than a B' either, but I also think it was a missed opportunity that could've actually done something really important rather than a semi re-hash of the last LP with some all-too-obvious references to records James Murphy likes (much like the first LP incidentally). So it'd make a list of mine, sure, but I'd be very uncomfortable with its presence on my list elevating it to 'Album of the Year'.
I'm deviating from my point a bit here, but my main issue would be that every chart made on a vote will result in albums with broad appeal at the top rather than a divisive piece of art that may well be of a far higher standard to those people that 'get it'.
So, so, so, good.
seriously. It rapes it.
fuck the haters.
but both are amazing. The whole album is.
some good inclusions though. Don't think there's enough out and out rock or punk on there, but I'll just wait for Buddyhead's end of year thang for that....
Also, thanks to that list I remembered how awesome the Dalek album is...
LCD Soundsystem to be vastly overrated. I like Sound of Silver in places but fail to see it as truly amazing.
A decent selection of albums in the list nevertheless.
no way be that low down. eedjits.
seem to have forgotten about Sprit If...
I only started reading it a few months ago :(
it was a vote system, from all the music writers.
All my Friends vs. Someone Great caused a lot of disagreements between staff. I voted for Someone Great, but we can't win them all (actually, I voted for Jimmy, but Someone Great was 3rd for me).
I don't think the Top 50 is the least bit obvious. There are plenty of 'obvious' albums in there (LCD, Panda Bear, The Field, Radiohead etc), but they're only 'obvious' because they are clearly very good. What other lists will have Miranda Lambert or the Lil Wayne mix-tape so high? or Battles so LOW (only 25!)?
And then there are several 'obvious' ones that don't make the list at all: Animal Collective, Jens Lekman, Les Savy Fav, Beirut (just off the top of my head).
LCD Soundsystem won because almost everybody had it in their list somewhere, and all the little points added up. Other contenders, like Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Kanye, M.I.A. etc, divided opinion more. I think, ultimately, the 1-2 of Someone Great and All My Friends got to EVERYBODY. And the rest of it ain't half bad either.
but the Paramore album in at 49? That doesn't make much sense. Plus I still don't 'get' MIA so have an issue with that record being at 8.
Strawberry Jam sucks
no it doesn't. Not in my opinion anyways Fireworks, Chores, For Reverend Green and Derek are amongst the best things AC have ever produced.
voted for Strawberry Jam at NUMBER 2! Even that wasn't enough to get it on the list. But clearly it was an album that divided opinion - it's only seventy-something on metacritic - and a lot of our writers just didn't like it.
As I said, Sound of Silver won not because everybody thought it was a A, but because it drew the strongest consensus that it was no less than a B. Strawberry Jam was an A for me, but a C for many of the others.
will think ought to be on there: Crytograms, Spirit If... and others that were oft mentioned on yesterday's thread.... but in general it's a decent list, eh.
And, obv, if Stylus is doing *their* Best Of list, then necessarily it must be a concensus/voting thing of staff.
Actually, I think DiS should compile of staff recommendation page... for the readers who don't hang around the boards all day.
it'll come, one day.
is a good idea.
Sorry your website is closing.