Sign In:
Login with Facebook

indie club annoyance

so i was out for my friends 21st and it was a killer night and we're partying on down and i thinks to myself, 'yknow what would be really cool, some dancing music' and head over to the dj booth.
(this is in newcastles "biggest" indie/rock/alt night, so obviously theres a big mixed crowd and everyones drinking away)

me: hey man, do you have anything by head automatica?

dj: yeh but i can't play it, its too guitary to play tonight (or words to that effect)

me: have you heard it ? its just dance music!

dj: i know, but its too rock to play here

me: how about something like the arcade fire or hot hot heat

dj: nah i dont think people here would like them

me: not even bandages you always play that?

got bandages ... but how can something be too guitary for a rock night !
its not like i was asking for 9 minutes vai and sach widdle fests or anything remotely metal ... jus seems silly that a dj isnt willing to play guitar/dance/party music at a nightclub.


ps i know im being daft, cos i dont actually like the most nightclubs, but humour me ;)
  • Relevant artist taggings:
  • None
  • indie club annoyance

    so i was out for my friends 21st and it was a killer night and we're partying on down and i thinks to myself, 'yknow what would be really cool, some dancing music' and head over to the dj booth.
    (this is in newcastles "biggest" indie/rock/alt night, so obviously theres a big mixed crowd and everyones drinking away)

    me: hey man, do you have anything by head automatica?

    dj: yeh but i can't play it, its too guitary to play tonight (or words to that effect)

    me: have you heard it ? its just dance music!

    dj: i know, but its too rock to play here

    me: how about something like the arcade fire or hot hot heat

    dj: nah i dont think people here would like them

    me: not even bandages you always play that?

    got bandages ... but how can something be too guitary for a rock night !
    its not like i was asking for 9 minutes vai and sach widdle fests or anything remotely metal ... jus seems silly that a dj isnt willing to play guitar/dance/party music at a nightclub.


    ps i know im being daft, cos i dont actually like the most nightclubs, but humour me ;)
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      Ah the question every DJ hates - 'could you play some ' insert xyz band that they don't like/are ambivalent towards/don't have with them/doesn't fit in with what they're trying to do.

      Far better thing to do is go find some clubs with DJs that are playing stuff you want to hear, and go and support them, rather than going to the big populist clubs and then complaining (meanwhile the smaller nights go bankrupt cos nobody turns up)
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      Oh and if they come up with seemingly lame excuses not to play the track, chances are they just don't like it but are too polite to tell you to fuck off.
      • Re: indie club annoyance

        Either that or haven't actually heard it and don't want to admit ;)
        • Re: indie club annoyance

          thats usually the case ... this club basically plays whatever is on mtv2 that week ... unfortunately there is nowhere else really worth going , unless you want full on headache inducing metal
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            Maybe you need to start your own club then :) that's how these things are born...
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              matt,

              you've seen through all my tricks! damn.
              It's a lot to do with the timing of when you ask too. There's usually a time when the tracks are dedicated to the stuff that's popular right now, to get everyone dancing. And if it goes well, then sometimes we play some more obscure 'indie' stuff (or at least not the current chart topping indie bands), but during these tracks our punters usually piss off to the bar. So far I've managed to empty the dancefloor by playing Rocket from the Crypt and Terrorvision.

              My favourite requests have been someone coming up to ask if we could play some 80s, while we were playing a track by the Smiths. and another who complained that we didn't play enough indie, just after we played the arcade fire.
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      I used to get drunk and hand the DJ a ten spot with my request. I swear to god they'd play Slint for ten bucks!
      • Re: indie club annoyance

        I was once told by a dj that it was his job to stop people like me.


        Admittedly i had just requested Shine On You Crazy Diamond Parts 1-5. And Achilles Last Stand. And some Joy Division.

        In a dedicated 70s cheese club... oh well
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      this is the problem with all provincial nightclubs that have a rock or indie night. the dj's somehow think that they have a skill, or are important. ive given up with rock nights, because I know there is no chance of hearing a song I might want to dance to.
      • Re: indie club annoyance

        Well quite. It's got to the point where i'd rather just dance to cheese than some provincial 5-or-10-years-behind-the-times indie schmindie rock mosh wankfest.
        • Re: indie club annoyance

          you mean hearing the stone roses cuddling up to killing in the name of by rage against the machine followed by the smiths and some motown isnt your idea of a great club ?

          hmm :P
        • Re: indie club annoyance

          unfortunately this is what people want to listen to.

          If I didn't care about empty dancefloors I'll be playing sets filled with 11 minute long jacques lu cont mixes, m83, and whatever else I'm listening to right now. But I don't think my punters will enjoy that.

          I had an idea for a Beach Boys themed club night, playing only music by the Beach Boys, and acts that were inspired by them. But I know if I put that night on here, it'd be either empty, or people will come in asking for the Smiths.
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            how about you start phasing in good songs between the standards ?
            then after hearing them over a few weeks people will start to know and enjoy them
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            blimey! I'd go to a Beach Boys themed club night!

            I reckon that'd be a fucking sell out!
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            Thing is if you want to play 'indie' to a packed dancefloor you have to compromise big-time, but if you want to play actual dance music to people who actually like dance music you can play any obscure shit you like (within reason) provided it's GOOD and it's DANCEABLE, and it'll go down well. That's why I prefer non-indie clubs, or at least open-minded indie clubs that attract open-minded punters.
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              yeah. that's why i've been thinking about buying a set of decks, and learn to dj with vinyl properly, and so i won't feel like such a fake when i play dancy stuff.

              I'm even scared of going into dance records shops..
              • Re: indie club annoyance

                Likewise, dance record shops are generally rather scary unless you know the people who work there / have a massive vinyl collection.

                I'd just go with a laptop and traktor dj studio personally. Downloading or buying music online is a much easier and more pleasant experience. People'll tell you it's not the same without decks but then people are elitist luddite twats, unless you really want to get good at fancy turntable trickery there's no need for it. And you can do a lot of the tricks more easily in software anyway.
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            Oh and I'm sure a beach boys night would fill up the cellar, you'd get indie kids but also lots of cheesy students down if it was sold to them as 'entz' on their college entz mailouts - beach boys theme night cheap drinks come dressed up or wahtever
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      were you in stone love by any chance?
      they never play what you ask for unless its been played to death on mtv2 recently
      • Re: indie club annoyance

        played to death on mtv before it's played in the club? Sounds like Birmingham all over.... I never understood why I Predict A Riot and Bandages were so popular at the Academy until recently when i got Sky.
        • Re: indie club annoyance

          you should come to manchester. DJs can play anything and plenty of people will know it - cos they're all cunts.
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            People generally like to dance to things they know i guess. So the bigger the club, the more populist the dj has to be, until you end up with lowest-common-denominator indie superclub thingies where they only play floor fillers after about 11pm. Because it's about money, not music.

            I guess if you want more specialist stuff, go to smaller clubs, although because these nights have less mass appeal they tend to be monthly and struggle to make it worth their while to do it. There are some on monthly rotation at the sunflower lounge in birmingham. Or the Medicine Bar maybe? Although that's not very indie.
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              it's sad that people'll only dance to something they know. me, i'll dance to anything i like - if i haven't heard it before, then hurrah, now i have! and on the other foot, some songs - well-loved as they may be - are not exactly ideal to dance to. admittedly when something you know and like comes on, it's a great incentive to dance, but personally nothing sends me flying towards the bar quicker than hearing heart of glass or sodding pretty vacant YET A-FUCKING-GAIN.

              obscurity for obscurity's sake, at a club where people want to drink and dance, is pointless, but a happy medium'd be nice - like instead of playing atdi's one armed scissor, play enfilade once in a while! [same album, for christ's sake...] and there are other smiths songs besides this charming man. i guess other people disagree though - throw on the worn, threadbare "classics" and inevitably the floor fills in a flash. peh.
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              Although im not exactly up to date on indie clubs in brum (been away too long), i'd recommend trying the sunflower lounge when 'this is not normal' is on (if its still going that is).

              they used to play a very wide variety of stuff and tended to completely avoid 'indie floor fillers'.

              With regards to the medicine bar you're unlikely to get much obscure indie as it tends to be more dance orientated, but its worth checking the listings once in a while. Similarly the boiler room in the jewellery quarter is owned by the same company and seems to be putting on a good range of specialist nights, but again they dont seem to hae much indie.
              • Re: indie club annoyance

                This is Normal! I remember them. I did an exhibition called that with a picture of a woman on the flyer and they totally ripped off the name AND the picture. It was funny. It was like, our flyer, basically, and our name. And our taste in music. I wonder if they stole that too? But how could they know... unless...
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      the whole point of DJing in my opinion is to please as much of the crowd as possible (but not at the same time). For example putting some punk on for the punk kids, some indie for the indie kids and etc. The problem I've had whilst DJing usually arise when someone starts getting highly upset that *shock horror* you haven;t played their favourite sub-genre for the last 20 minutes. These range from black clad, headbangers who keep demanding you play some obscure Finnish Power metal track you have on a compilation just when the dance floor is packed with people who would rather gargle with Magaret Thatcher's bodily fluids than dance to the said track, to blazer wearing fashionsita's types who start crying more tears than gazza in an onion factory because you've put something really heavy on like the Deftones, and their poor fragile ears just simply cannot cope for the next half hour til you put Franz Ferdinand on.

      for the record, I would definitely play Hot Hot Heat and Head Automatica, though not the Arcade Fire as you simply can't dance to it (oh and the reason they are quite shit)
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      went to the leadmill the other week to see hot hot heat, and all they played in the half-hour gaps between bands was the kaiser chiefs. the leadmill djs have to have the most bland imaginations ever
      • Re: indie club annoyance

        when i went to upstairs @ the garage earlier this month they were playing The Others quite abit, must have been at least one song between changeovers.
        • Re: indie club annoyance

          Can I just say that wasn't Silver Rocket!

          Oceanrain: "I used to get drunk and hand the DJ a ten spot with my request. I swear to god they'd play Slint for ten bucks!"

          We'd play slint for you without bribery, rain.

          The problem we have is trying to keep playing recent music, when all the new stuff that we get asked to play is the killers. Sigh. But we don't just want to play old records. Note though that our old is sonic youth and Fugazi not stone roses.

          Mr Brainlove "I guess if you want more specialist stuff, go to smaller clubs, although because these nights have less mass appeal they tend to be monthly and struggle to make it worth their while to do it"

          Being a niche market is very hard. Especially because we're not fashionable, we don't screw the right journalists or something, and often our club listing emails get ignored not included, then nobody knows about the night, and sometimes it's a bit quiet which is heartbreaking, I know it's a cliche, but we do SR for the love of it not for money (the bands get all the money) so we care about it a lot.

          Building up a club by word of mouth alone is very hard and plenty of times in the past 5 years we have thought about jacking it in (ask Mike Diver, he's been on the receiving end of some of my miserablist text messages). But if we quit I don't think there is anyone playing the same stuff as us, I've been to plenty of clubs that claim they're similar, but the flyers are usually lying. So if we don't keep doing the club then we'll have nowhere to go and dance to things we like to dance to.

          <plug>
          Silver Rocket this Friday 6th May: The Rogers Sisters + Citizens Here And Abroad + 3hostwomexicansandatinofspanners + Go! Team! Go!
          8pm-3am, Upstairs at the Garage, London, £4 w/flyer (from www.silverrocket.org) or NUS, £5 otherwise, £3 after 11.30 (for club only), special offer drinks after 11.
          </plug>

          What recent stuff would you lot want us to play (no jokes about the Libertines please) alongside the Dinosaur Jr and My Bloody Valentine?
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            sorry that was so long by the way
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              I like the Libertines.
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              "Maybe you need to start your own club then :) that's how these things are born..."

              Exactly. Although it's hard to compete with Kasabatinekillerchief clubs smugly playing the occasional Joy Division tune, there's nothing like looking out over a packed dancefloor dancing to records YOU have chosen, on a night that YOU have put on. Likewise, there's nothing quite so disheartening as playing your favourite choons to a empty dancefloor.

              It's hard to please everyone. Not obscure enough for some, others have no idea what you're playing so go home early.

              Also, why would you lie about what bands you play on a flyer?
              • Re: indie club annoyance

                "Also, why would you lie about what bands you play on a flyer?"

                Beats me, I just remember all too many times looking at a flyer the morning after a disappointing club and counting off the stuff they played, and it was only about a quarter of the bands listed. I assume in most cases it's an accident but there's one club in particular I remember that listed virtually the same bands as us but then spectacularly failed to play more than a third of them. The one occasion (never to be repeated) we went to a well known and fashionable monday night club in London was especially memorable for flyer inaccuracy, where they played about 5 bands off the flyer and most of those were particularly bad remixes.

                Like you say, there's nothing that beats playing a record you love and everyone starts dancing. Occasionally people clap, which is very flattering but a bit wierd, it's not like we had any creative input into the record!

                Thanks Mr Brainlove btw.

                God I have to start rambling less. It's cos I have homework to do and this is more interesting innit.
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              AND CUT & PASTE.

              Lest thee forget.

              This month with added Jason and the Astronaut and Charlottefield action!

              21/5/05.

              Mx
              • Re: indie club annoyance

                Or come to DIS's RoTa afternoons.

                Saturday we played An Albatross and The Locust alongside The Hunches and Les Savy Fav and Early Man and Maximo Park and thisGirl and some other guff that was REALLY good.

                And the Crazy Frog. Oh yeah...
                • Re: indie club annoyance

                  This is a problem.

                  What annoys me are nights where the DJ has obviously decided he has the who night planned in his head and will not let anything deviate him from his path, whether the crowd actually want to hear the same SONGS in the same ORDER every single time is a minor detail. It's like he really believes that he has cracked the optimum playlist and any change to it would destroy the world as we know it forever.......

                  ......or maybe he just plays a burned mix cd and mimes the putting records on decks malarky.....

                  DJ's who actually create new music and scratch/mix into new shapes and beats rhythums should be allowed to get on with it and do what the fuck they like.

                  middle aged 'dj's in indie/rock skankholes should play what the crowd fucking want as far as Im concerned,

                  YES there is the argument, if you dont like the music dont go. Indeed. But if it's the only club in a 40 mile radius that doesnt play 'choons' as such, its often unavoidible.
                  • Re: indie club annoyance

                    anyone can be an indie dj and everyone wants to be one its just not many are given the chance so if you wanna come to our nite and bring like 3 songs you wanna play wed let ya
                    its every saturday its FREE ENTRY and its in the rock n roll capital of london er walthamstow
                    @celsius
                    166 hoe street
                    walthamstow
                    3mins from walthamstow central(vitoria line)

                    from 8pm till late

                    more indie tunes than you could fit into john prescotts belly


                    • Re: indie club annoyance

                      how to be a "populist" indie club dj : buy an nme with a free cd on the cover ... go to club ... insert cd , press play ... job done
                      • Re: indie club annoyance

                        I don't see how its possible to play every band that you put on a flyer. I wouldn't want to go to a club that rigorously stuck to a list of bands they had to play anyway. Seriously, some of the best nights i've been to i've not know half of the stuff that was played, i've just gone out to enjoy mysels, not to show how fucking scene i am.
                        Come to one of the nights we put on but don't expect to hear what's massive in the indie charts all nigth. Why stick to one genre where a large number of bands are still obsessed with the 80's or the Madchester scene. In the words of Partridge "They've just re-badged it you idiot".
                        If you don't like a club don't go back. Don't expect the dj to play every song you request. They only have a certain length of time to play for and want to play their own choices too, which is actually why they were asked to come play at the club in the first place.
                        Rant over.
                        • Re: indie club annoyance

                          "If you don't like a club don't go back."

                          in these parts that is basically another way of saying "never go out to any club again".
                          i know djs can't play every request after "dancers aren't drinkers, dancers are not drinkers" and they need to keep the money coming in, but the absolute lack of variety and predicability of it all ... if you saw the same band on tour 4 nights in a row you'd be more suprised by the setlists than you would be by the playlists of the "indie" clubs up here
                          • Re: indie club annoyance

                            I'm with Adrian. I've had people turn up at my club, waving a flyer under my nose saying "you haven't played this, this, this or this yet!" and they'd only been there for an hour and a half! Having said that, it was our first night, and they were from another club, so...

                            I've also had certain twats claim that we lie about what bands we play on our flyer (not aimed at you, Silver Rocket) all because a friend of a friend told them that we didn't play Melt Banana the week that they went. What can you say to people like that?

                            We have guest DJs each month, who rarely stick to what's on the flyer; this is what keeps us fresh and (hopefully) interesting.

                            Rather than list meaningless genres (emo-jazz, post-wave, avant-kronk), our flyer is an overview of the type of bands you might hear, not a fucking checklist. Expecting the DJ's to play exactly what's on the flyer each and every month is frankly retarded.

                            Mini rant over x
                            • Re: indie club annoyance

                              *That should be "A guest DJ each month".
                              • Re: indie club annoyance

                                I suppose we play records for 4 or 5 hours each club, including the gaps between bands and have about 40 bands on our flyer (more on the site). If we don't play one song by probably 2/3 of those (given that most of them have done 3 or 4 or 5 albums) and weren't willing to play something by any of the rest if we were asked on any given night I'd feel like I wasn't being honest, given that that still only adds up to about an hour, maybe an hour and a half so there's plenty of time to play other similar but not the same records.

                                And it doesn't mean that you have to play the same songs every time either. We do end up playing a few songs a lot, maybe we have 10 songs I'd be surprised not to play at least every other club, but that's cos people ask for them and we try and honour requests, unless they're for a band I hate, when I'll politely exlain we don't have anything by them. Other times we play a different song by the same band that's been requested but that can annoy people so we try and balance giving them what they ask for and playing what's best for everyone else in the club (and a bit of selfishness too, what's the point of being a DJ if you don't get to pick some of the songs?)

                                I think for me it depends on how many bands you (not directed at slashclub) have on your flyer, if there's 40 bands listed and only 5 of them got played plus 3 hours of northern soul or some other completely different genre to that listed I think that's being misleading. We've been to clubs and requested a handful of the bands listed on the flyers and found out that none of the DJs has any songs by any of the band we asked for with them, and they've clearly just listed them because either they think it makes them look cool or to make people come in! I think if you're advertising something on a flyer (which is exactly what it is, an advert) you should damn well try and play mostly what you said you would. If you bought a flaming lips album and half of it was actually by coldplay you'd be pretty pissed off so I don't see the difference personally. If you just want to give a general idea of what you want to play list 8 or 10 bands and give some genre descriptions, then nobody can say you're misleading them.

                                But that's just an opinion.

                                I get what you're saying about guest DJs, I'm sure people ought to be able to be patient for half an hour or an hour and open their ears to new stuff (it's also good cos we can steal the ideas of whatever they play that people dance to ha ha).

                                Our flyer has changed loads of times over the years to reflect what we're actually playing at the time rather than what we think we should say to make people come, and had a very radical overhaul a few months ago, I wouldn't dream of putting anything on it that I wouldn't or couldn't play (andy added kasabian to the flyer a while ago and I had to take it off again as i'd rather rip my own ears off than play them). We also lug around the world's biggest collection of records and CDs everywhere we DJ to try and cover all bases, we probably have enough records to play for 2 weeks solid.

                                I just don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to play what they say they will. But that's obviously just my opinion.
                                • Re: indie club annoyance

                                  bloody hell i don't half go on.
                                • Re: indie club annoyance

                                  Yeah okay fair point. DJs should have some kind of veto because otherwise some awful crap would get requested and clear the dancefloor...and oh fuck it, Im staying at home.
                                  • Re: indie club annoyance

                                    I agree about Kasabian. I'd rather eat my own testicles than play them at a night. I've had big arguments in the past about that band.

                                    One way around all this is to make a lovely flyer with lots of pictures, a description of the style of the night and only about 10 band names on it. Then everyone will think its a lovely little arty club night and come along to have fun rather than mark off all the bands on the flyer like a bunch of greasy, trainspotting cunts.
                                    • Re: indie club annoyance

                                      Does anyone else go to a gig/indie night and feel quite intimidated by the people because they are all y'know....dressed cool. I always think these people are uber-louche and will merely tip their beret when some obscure post-punk band are played, but then The Killers/Razorlight/Kasabian are played and they all go FUCKING mental, this just makes me realise that these people aren't cool...they are quite literally style over substance.
                                      • Re: indie club annoyance

                                        atom_jack ... you just described stone love perfectly ... everyone hanging around dressed up cool then as soon as mr.brightside or golden touch comes on they hit the dance floor and break out all the hottest drunk-student dance moves
                                      • Re: indie club annoyance

                                        "Now I have no idea what I was blethering about. I wish this blooming forum had a 'preview'."

                                        Too blinking true, I could have edited my postzilla to a less stupid length. An edit facility would do.

                                        "Does anyone else go to a gig/indie night and feel quite intimidated by the people because they are all y'know....dressed cool."

                                        You should come to our club cos we're not cool, we've never been cool, and I have no intention of ever being cool. Yeah it's annoying sometimes when people pile into clubs cos they're fashionable and hence a trendy but feckin awful night is rammed, but then I think I wouldn't really want the fashionistas in clogging up my dance floor by being too scared to dance to something in case they were accidentally being uncool. Also, if we are never fashionable we can't become past fashionable, this is why we are still going after 5 years I think, no bastard has heard of us but then the people that have keep coming back and we aren't last months' big thing.

                                        Also I couldn't help but notice you (mr/ms atom_jack) like fugazi and sonic youth and another load of bands we like a lot.

                                        I hope this isn't another megahugemungous post full of typos, I've been on the buze and my judgement is a little impaired. Apologies to anyone who thinks i should be apologising to them.
                                    • Re: indie club annoyance

                                      The way not to have to play Kasabian is to refuse to own anything by the band in the first place. This way we can't play them on our night!

                                      The same applies for Kings of Leon, Oasis,The Vines, Jet etc etc
                                • Re: indie club annoyance

                                  I would say Silver Rocket is one of those clubs where I've always enjoyed what the DJs played, and lots of it is easy to dance to.

                                  However, it's also quite clear (I would hope) to those who come what they can expect.

                                  Reading over this thread what annoys me most is some of the attitudes from DJs on here, which seems to be a little on the 'I know best' side of things. Yes: You have to trust a DJ to pick the songs, but equally I don't give a shit if you've heard X song fifty times and is hence 'overplayed'. That can be considered a hazard of the job and if people are requesting a good track that's obviously going to be a popular maybe it should be played.

                                  Of course, I'm probably a strange individual because I don't really ever get bored of stuff. I can play Nirvana and others over and over simply because it's just a different class of music...

                                  Now I have no idea what I was blethering about. I wish this blooming forum had a 'preview'.
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      I find this is the same every indie club of a friday /saturdday.The dj plays the same old thing every week and if you ask for certain bands there are only some songs he will play by said band for instance:

      The cure-Boys dont cry
      the smiths-this charming man
      ect ect
      Also I dont like the way you ask for something they say yeah yeah and then just play the same old shite.Whats the point in a club dj who never accepts requests?You may as well have a sequencer on with a playlist churning out the same thing each week why do you even need the bloke behind the decks?
      • Re: indie club annoyance

        there's a this club i go to which has its own special version of that typical song rule.

        What pixies song is going to get played every week?

        You'd think debaser, maybe monkey's gone to heaven, where is my mind, gigantic or here comes your man. But no they play (drum roll)......





        Planet of sound!

        I was so happy the first time, now i realise that they play it every week the novelty has worn off a little bit, but tis still ace.
        • Re: indie club annoyance

          What I don't get about Pixies/Indie Discos is that everyone's gonna own Dolittle or at least the best of that came out last year, so they could play most things off those 2 at least!

          If i get this DJ spot I'm going for then I might give Wave Of Mutilation a spin i think.
          • Re: indie club annoyance

            yeah, i never quite got the reliance on debaser week in week out, there are loads of great pixies tracks and most people who know them are going to have at least the best of as you say.

            Similarly the smiths, it doesnt always have to be this charming man or how soon is now
            • Re: indie club annoyance

              Here Comes Your Man, every bloody week round here. Had a go at the Dj about it, he claimed "it's the only one people dance to" -I claimed he was a cunt.
              • Re: indie club annoyance

                i'm so sick of debaser. our website makes a thing of us not playing debaser i hate it so much. same goes for the other obvious 2 here comes yr man and monkey gone to heaven, although mr silver rocket plays mgth sometimes and i have to slap him.

                mind you i'm not much better i only play 5 or 6 different ones.i have shakes now, typing failing me, sleep must yes sleep yes zzzz reading the whole of that no pictures on yr profile thingy has melted my brain....
                • Re: indie club annoyance

                  "The cure-Boys dont cry
                  the smiths-this charming man"

                  Aaagghhh! Stop complaining about shitty Indie nights! Either stop going to them and go to decent nights like Silver Rocket and Slash/ or else start your own.

                  'Cool' people (ie: cunts in stupid hats/sunglasses/rod stewart haircuts) have no place in our club. They tend to stand around by the bar for an hour or two before skulking off because people are dancing and having fun / not dancing to The Libertines.
                  • Re: indie club annoyance

                    Hmm, not wanting to be arsey, but its alright for you london types to go on about going to decent nights when you actually have them. Tis slightly harder for us provincial types, not that im jealous, honest.

                    in fact being in cambridge has really made me realise how lucky i am to be in birmingham, and that doesnt exactly have a huge diversity.

                    Oh and in response to the 'put on your own night' issue that always comes up, has it occured to you that doing so somewhere smaller than london is far harder because you have real issues with managing to pull in a big enough crowd at a more specialist night. That and the lack of venues available. Im actually planning on trying to start putting on a night when i get back to brum, but even in a city of that size im having issues trying to find a venue that'll have me as the market's pretty much sown up.
                    • Re: indie club annoyance

                      it took me 3 years to get out of cambridge and move to London but it's worth the effort, honest.
                      • Re: indie club annoyance

                        I know, planning to be in london in a couple of years after i've gone traveling/finally decided on a job.

                        • Re: indie club annoyance

                          IF I HEAR "DISCO DOWN" BY SHED SEVEN ONCE MORE I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY ACTIONS.
                          • Re: indie club annoyance

                            Good lord where does that get played?
                            • Re: indie club annoyance

                              SILVER ROCKET.
                              AHAHAHAHAHA.
                              • Re: indie club annoyance

                                And if I hear Step On once again............
                              • Re: indie club annoyance

                                Michael Diver you are SO dead. Kindly retract that at once.
                                • Re: indie club annoyance

                                  Retract THIS....!!!!










                                  Wait, that doesn't work - no visuals.
                                  Dang.
                                  You'll just have to wait til the 21st.
                                  • Re: indie club annoyance

                                    You'll be looking to retract your testicles from your abdominal cavity on the 21st if you're not careful :op

                                    Don't you know you're not suppose to be cheeky to your elders and betters.... or even just your elders.
                                    • Re: indie club annoyance

                                      thedaythatthatcherdies..you said that there were good places to go in london for rock music?

                                      well i still havent found them
                                      • Re: indie club annoyance

                                        According to whats spouted on here there are decent nights in london if you look beyond the mainstream etc. And that makes sense given the scale of the place, it should be able to support niche nights. If you think london is bad, trust me try anywhere else in the country...

                                        My point was more about how its all very good for those in london to go on about putting on your own night if there's nothing you like, but to do a specialist night requires the market to exist. In smaller cities this isnt the case, and thats before you start worrying about finding a venue that will have you
                                        • Re: indie club annoyance

                                          Yeah sure. The bad thing about London is, now you might find this a bit rich, but in a way theres too much going on. Its weird, because while London may have tons of obscure an original things going on, it seems as if these discoveries fade away almost as soon as they begin.

                                          Maybe its the fact that the people in this city are incredibly mobile and have to move around a lot, or the fact that its just incredibly expensive to live in or around the centre.

                                          I mean, yeah, Im happy that there is such a selection, but the only interesting places seem to be of a hip hop or dance variety (ok, the University of Dub in Brixton is pretty fucking cool). When it comes to rock music, seems as if its the same type of shitty, dingy club you'll find anywhere in this country.
                                          • Re: indie club annoyance

                                            ok what do you like? i'm sure we can think of something for you what with all the brilliant musical minds on the boards.

                                            silver rocket is 5 in july, yippee. i wouldn't argue about upstairs at the garage being dingy, but then for me that's part of its charm.
                                            • Re: indie club annoyance

                                              i like a lot of things. whats silver rocket like? i dont think ive ever heard of it but id be more than willing to check it out some time
                                              • Re: indie club annoyance

                                                you can look at our playlist on www.silverrocket.org but i won't be offended if you're not interested!

                                                give us some favourite bands for dancing to and i'll see what we i think of for you, i seem to have been to too many different clubs recently, all slightly different (but all in the sphere of indie/guitar i guess)

                                                stupid shift key.
                                                • Re: indie club annoyance

                                                  I had a look at the site and its seems cool! To be honest, I've been turned off a lot of the indie clubs around London. I find it really hard not to put a look of disgust on my face when something like Jet comes on, and I dont think Id be hearing that sort of thing judging by the list on your site.

                                                  I also live on Holloway road so theres no damn reason not to! Cheers
                                          • Re: indie club annoyance

                                            The other problem with london is that, while there is a market for specialist stuff, you'll often have a hard time finding that market ... it's not very cohesive socially like a smaller town is. In a smaller town you'll probably know most of the people who're regulars at the kind of nights you enjoy, the people who'd be interested. Whereas in london they're dotted all over a very large area and there's not a lot bringing them together, it's harder to promote stuff.

                                            If you can't find interesting rock nights in london I suspect you're not looking hard enough - perhaps if you explain better what you mean by 'interesting'. Silver rocket was pretty good back when i was into that sort of thing, the venue's a bit crap though. I don't think rock clubs are really drawn to swanky venues, whatever part of the country. Upset the Rhythm are good for arty rock type events in little nice venues... quite a lot of east london places have artier / trendier rock nights... lots of camden shitholes playing alternative stuff if thats what youre into... I dunno.
                                            • Re: indie club annoyance

                                              Infact, here's an example for you, appears to be a friend of a friend's night:

                                              GOOOH!

                                              Thurs 12th May

                                              at Catch 22, Kingsland road, Shoreditch

                                              9pm - 2am

                                              FREE

                                              With.......

                                              The Sticks - Primitive 60s garage gunk like The
                                              Hospitals, Coachwhips, Black lips......

                                              Ack Ack Ack - Beat machine jazzbot v.s magic
                                              guitar men

                                              Then......DISCO!!!! til 2am.
                                              "djs" play - erase errata, shellac, les georges
                                              leningrad, wire, human league, tracy and the
                                              plastics, ex-models, die monitr batz, gossip, arab
                                              on radar, kid commando, seconds, les savy fav,
                                              unicorns, burmese, lightning bolt, my bloody
                                              valentine, ramones, stooges, deerhoof, barcelona
                                              pavillion, channels 3 and 4, sonic youth, suicide, a-
                                              frames, intelligence, murder of rosa luxemburg,
                                              pink and brown, butthole surfers, ex kings of Dude,
                                              melvins, old time relijun, coachwhips, the fall,
                                              black lips, fast fourier, black eyes, measels
                                              mumps rubella, liars, le shok, death sentence
                                              panda, numbers, !!!, glass candy, onieda, dna,
                                              delta 5, mu, metal urbane, adult, pavement and
                                              many many many more.
                                              • Re: indie club annoyance

                                                Damn thats made me all nostalgic about art-rock now. Maybe I should go if only I wasn't in oxford boring my own arse off with set theory revision.
                                                • Re: indie club annoyance

                                                  that looks like fun.
                                                  • Re: indie club annoyance

                                                    Yeah I think Ill check that out too. I quite like Catch, its a nice small venue. There's one really HOT girl that works behind the bar there.

                                                    I think I saw DJ Yoda there aaaages ago too.

                                                    Cheers big ears.
                                                  • Re: indie club annoyance

                                                    Yeah I think Ill check that out too. I quite like Catch, its a nice small venue. There's one really HOT girl that works behind the bar there.

                                                    I think I saw DJ Yoda there aaaages ago too.

                                                    Cheers big ears.
                                                    • Re: indie club annoyance

                                                      Damn, there's no way I can take Thursday clubbing these days. :-(
                                                      • Whilst we're on the subject...

                                                        /// SLASH/ Thursday 19th May ///

                                                        SLASH/ #10 is here! Get down to Public Life (82a Commercial Street, E1) on the 19th May and dance to the genres of Punk / Post Punk / Post Rock / New Wave / No Wave / Lo-fi / Indie Noise / insert hip genre / plus a slideshow and Super 8 extravaganza.

                                                        We're on from 9.00pm to 2.00am and it's only £3.00 before 11.00pm and £5.00 after, so get down early and save, save, save.

                                                        Expect music from the likes of Devo / Sonic Youth / Make Up / Deerhoof / The B-52's / The Chinese Stars / ESG / A Certain Ratio / Joy Division / !!! / Lightning Bolt / Modest Mouse / Bloc Party / The Fall / Les Savy Fav / The Beach Boys / Ui / Ramones / The Buff Medways / Shellac / Weezer / Dizzee Rascal / Gangstarr / Ex Models / The Postal Service / Dinosaur Jr / Sleater Kinney / Kate Bush / The Cure / Big Black / Part Chimp / Velvet Underground / The Arcade Fire / Mudhoney / Coachwhips / The Smiths / Swell Maps / The Cramps / Melt Banana / Black Flag / Liars / The Contortions / DFA 1979 / Jive Bunny (really) / many more besides.

                                                        This month we have TWO, yes TWO SpecialguestDJs! First up, INCREDIBLE and KEEBY from CLECKHUDDERSFAX play genre-defining classic rock/electro-disco crossover with an accent on the ridiculous, followed at some point by JAMES of NASCENT (Brighton) and GOOOH! fame. Both will play a whole bunch of greatness. Bring your spazzy dancing shoes, the podiums are yours for the taking!!!

                                                        ALSO:
                                                        Be the first on your block to wear one of our fabulous FREE badges (available in pink or blue, while stocks last). They may look rather fetching on the pocket of a jean or the chest of a tee, but if you don't come, you can't have one.
                                                        • Re: Whilst we're on the subject...

                                                          I'll try and come (but i have 9am lectures on fridays ugh) note of course that i'll be bringing a checklist and if I can't cross off at least half the things you just said I'll be jumping over the decks and challenging whoever I find there to a wrestling match ha ha ha

                                                          p.s. it's ok not to play the jive bunny, even though i do think it's important to support ex-miners in their new professions.
    • Re: indie club annoyance

      I just DJed for 80 minutes at our uni (Coventry)'s all purpose "guitar music" night though this acutually translates to mostly metal as metallers are the only people to turn up. the union decided to close us down at half 11 (they insist we open at 8) as a baramid had an exam the next day. nice to know their considerate employers. I have to say the setlist was quite interesting for a SU night

      the tracklisting is as follows


      Black Sabbath-War pigs
      Dark Tranquility-the newe build
      Arch Enemy-we will rise
      Still Remains-the worst is yet to come
      Opeth-bleak
      White Zombie-super charger
      Shadow Falls-what drive the weak
      Lamb of god-now you've got something to die for
      Nine Inch Nails-smaller and smaller (r)
      Bon Jovi-livin on a prayer (r)
      Hellacopters-by the grace of god (r)
      He is Legend-the seduction
      The Saints-know your product (r)
      New Bomb Turks-the roof (r)
      Less than Jake-history of a boring town (r)
      My Chemical Romance-thank you for the venom
      Finch-letters to you
      Thrice-under a killing moon
      Laibach-one over 909
      Testament-into the pit
      Ministry-jesus built my hotrod
      Garbage-push me (r)
      Strapping young lad-detox
      Judas Priest-metal meltdown
      Hammerfall-riders of the storm (r)
      Hatebreed-straight to your face
      Sonic youth-drunken butterfly
      Add N to(X)-four
      Interpol-slow hands
      Carcass-heartwork
      the Escape-seayory
      Million Dead-the kids are going to love it (r)
      Capdown-MV4 (r)
      Death cab for cutie-why you'd want to live here
      Jimmy eat world-the middle
      Manowar-hand of doom (r)
      Dragonforce-fury of the storm
      Dismember-overide of the overture (r)
      Children of Bodom-follow the reaper (r)
      Judas Priest-electric eye
      Death-spirit crusher (r)
      Billy Talent-the ex (r)
      Life of agony-river runs red (r)
      Vader-blood of kings (r)
      A Perfect Circle--judith (r)
      Satyricon-havoc vulture (r)
      System of a down-BYOB (r)
      Iron Maiden-aces high
      Blackmores Night-under a violet moon

      you can say what you want about Cov uni, but what other uni lets people play Laibach, Add N to (X) and Satyricon ?

Thread not appearing correctly? Click here to rebuild | Report this