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inform me it really is for the reason Tom gives in the latest issue's editorial. More shops are now queing up to stock it when it goes monthly, so in the long run, it could be a really good thing.
Where are you living now?
Come to The Good Ship on Wednesday.
Do you still have lots of jumpers?
The news is always old before it gets there so it's not important.
compared to 500,000 in the late 80's early 90's, so it would appear, no we dont need a weekly music mag.
twice as big?
it'll be the only monthly one that caters for the under 25s... or am I wrong?!?
ps yes I do still own many jumpers :)
I presume it's not aimed at any age group in particular but it's certainly not not aimed at under-25s (unless you have a very specific view of what under-25's enjoy.
Artrocker's not aimed at under-25s either. In fact, god knows who it's aimed at - I like a lot of the bands they are keen on, yet whenever I've read it I've never got the impression that it reflects what I should like and be like.
For some bizarre reason I was once present at the start of an artrocker monthly team meeting. I did get the sense that the people involved with it had more interest in whether something was cool and zeitgeist-y than whether it was any good.
but then they once wrote about my band and we aren't very arty at all.
It's mostly about the rock. Not a criticism, mind, just an observation.
called Under the Radar, apparently they sell it in Rough Trade, and it's probably as close to a DiS magazine as possible.
There are loads of features on new bands, and their full length interviews are brilliantly comprehensive, well-researched, and informative. Worth a fiver.
i'd say Plan B is mostly read by college/university students + graduates of whatever vintage...
perhaps Artrocker appears aimed at younger because it - like the NME - is much more tightly focused on UK boy-guitar/trad-indie bands..?
lastly, there's now a facebook group for Plan B if anyone cares to get aligned...
hiring writers or are they sticking with the chimpanzees?
The main reason why I have virtually stopped writing for Artrocker is because of the lack of variety in the bands that they promote. As has been mentioned above, it's the same old tired procession of identikit guitar bands.
They may hate the NME, but that is what they have effectively become - just promoting the same thing every week.
Artrocker basically needs a kick up the arse.
then I assume you weren't responsible for any of the dribbled-out-alphabet-soup-masquerading-as-the-english-language that i saw in its pages. Hence my jovial 'chimp' remark does not apply.
Prove it! Come on!
I use another one.
you're just someone they rejected or culled?
I'm 'wyldman'. Probably the last thing I did for them was a review of The Virgins/Autodrone from New York in February.
is the only magazine I need.
Puts the UK rock press to shame
Do you order it or are you lucky enough to have somewhere nearby that stocks it?
to be fair though the magazine's done a hellofalot to support the under 18s festivals, I think they're still running a under 18s club night at the Roundhouse too. That's dedication as Roy Castle would say!
Also - despite the odd promo tie in - no IPC or mass corporate backing.
I mean that's all very good but doesn't really address or relate to any criticism anyone's made on this thread.
and I hate the layout.
I do miss Punk Planet though, now that really was a great magazine.
Does anyone else read Skyscraper?
It's a quarterly publication, they stock it in Borders. I enjoy that a great deal...Dinosaur Jr, Shellac, Minus the Bear, Art Brut and Low all feature in the current issue....unfortunately so do The Horrors, but, then, you can't have it all, can you?
looking at the contents of the back issues makes me realise just how great it is:
'Artrocker music magazine is an independent fortnightly publication which is available across the United Kingdom. It provides an opinionated outlook on modern culture from the people who make music what it is, supplying the reader with up to date information on the happenings of the UK's music scene with an emphasis on London'
An emphasis on London? Never!
I'd respect them more if they took the somewhat braver step of placing a particular emphasis on Sturminster Newton.
on some bands in London that don't fit in with their fixed idea of the indie music scene.
I've got friends who write for/know the people who run Artrocker so I don't want to be too critical but the bottom line is they, along with the NME, are the people who hold indie music in this country back. They've got a narrow definition of what "alternative" culture should (or indeed) can be and either attempt to bend bands into that or ignore them completely.
They're one of these magazines that think they're providing some kind of revolution whilst instead proving emphatically that they're the very reason why the said revolution is required.
...as to what Skyscraper covers that Plan B doesn't - just been to their page and there was a decent overlap...
Just me that reads Wire then?
but it frequently leaves me a. wanting more music than I can ever possibly afford b. wondering what the bastarding hell they're blathering on about.
But yes, I do enjoy reading it. It's well designed, well written, varied and features artists and styles that are completely unknown to me.
And you've hit it completely on the head... I think it's the style of writing that makes you want to go and hear everything they write about, just to see what it's like...
Which, I suppose answers my reasoning for not reading Artrocker, nothing against it, it's just not my thing and doesn't get me fired up for music like other publications do...
their blind jukebox feature where they play random stuff to a experienced musician and let them guess what it is. The style of that piece is always quality, especially seen as the musician always seems to get so damn close.
Who's on the cover this month? The last issue I have is the PJ Harvey one.
I stopped my subscription as I couldn't afford it.... Need to get meself out to Borders on my lunch break...
Blind Jukebox is a really good idea I think. The music always has some kind of connection to the person they're interviewing so it's all relevant and gives you a few ideas for further listening too...
And, purely from an aesthetic point of view, I love the graphics and stuff...
And Trip or squeak, possibly the world's only self-deprecating avant-humour cartoon strip?
confused when they lampooned James Murphy in the cartoon a few months back, after all I thought the mag loved LCD?!
As for the design; our magazine editor here loves it, I think its quite unique in the way the features are presented, and without fail the covers are minimisticallyspectacular.
No sacred cows... They're very aware of snobbish they can come across sometimes, and will be self-deprecating accordingly...
I love the covers... especially the cLOUDDEAD one from ages ago...
art rocker... they reviewed late of the pier/future of the left/ i like trains/ bearsuit/ ladytron / black lips/ pony up / battles/ acoustic ladyland all in one issue.
Maybe people aren't buying it cause it is not that easy to get hold of.
Is on artrocker.com today, speaking about the US 2008 elections. Not very Londoncentric or indiecentric, that!