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never heard them....
Read about them enough...
so should I buy the Debut or Dog Man Star?
is probably their best album (in my now revised opinion).
though it's not as immediate as, say, Coming Up. But it's defintiely their best album.
I'd say that's a strong consensus for A New Morning then
Also, am I the only one who reckons that 'Stay Together' was their finest single and is utterly perplexed that it wasn't included on any of their albums?
butler wrote it just after his father died and it was so mixed in with that that i dont think he wanted it to be part of anything else
I didn't realise there was a story behind that.
he couldnt talk to any of the band about it, brett was too into heroine... thus it all resulted in huge arguments about the mixing style of Dog Man Star and Bernard leaving before finishing the album (i think the only song they had to finish was New Generation though...)
it had great cover art if memory serves.
They were such a great band, much like Supergrass (it's nostalgia night on DiS) they weren't really appreciated enough.
they were totally appreciated. for the first two albums anyway they were about the biggest indie band in the country, until blur/pulp/oasis came up and got in their way
I was 13 or so when the debut came out and can well recall the hype.
I recall listening to Collins and Maconie on Radio 1 doing their weekly review show and one of the guests was Miles Hunt, he slagged off Brett Anderson memorably comparing him to a cross between Rigsby and Alma from Coronation Street!
to be honest all suede is bad
Hugely popular, but utterly of their time.
I think it's because it was all about Brett Anderson's voice and concerns. Butler was a brilliant guitarist, but also very anonymous.
I'm sure God Man Star will be remembered in years top come
although i like all their albums..except Head Music. Avoid.
I still get a slight shiver when Butler starts his double-guitar-in-one stuff on The Drowners.
But then buy Dog Man Star as well.
you should walk after their career path: start with the first and then Dog Man Star (that is the best record o the 90's) and then coming Up. Don't miss the collection of B-sides because in there there are abslute gems, it's called Sci-Fi Lullabies. If you want to go on you have to think that the last two records wee written by a junky singer and an impotent band. But the Brett Anderson solo record is fine.
If you REALLY like Coming Up, get Head Music. DO NOT buy A New Morning under any circumstances, it's one of the worst records I've ever heard in my life.
does have a few brilliant tracks - Untitled, Lost in TV, Astrogirl even- and quite a few terrible ones.
and their last single was a return to form I'd say, irritatingly catchy in a good way:
Street Life is the nadir of their career and much of it's pretty ignorable but there 3 or 4 gems among the shite. In a way that pissed me off even more - they seemed to be torn between genuinely progressing and pushing themselves (songs you mention plus the secret track Oceans) and parodying The Beautiful Ones over and over (much of the rest of the album) and the fact that could clearly do more if they tried made the fact they didn't even worse.
Plus their second-to-last-ever-gig they did a new song (with the words "Music Like Sex you Like To Have Sex To" repeated over and over like Supergrass' Pumpin' on your Stero, which was the best thing they'd done for ages.
because they decided to make it close to impossible to listen by hiding it, one of the best things they did in years.
They approach to promotion and choice of singles was a bit ludicrous towards the end. Instead of choosing their good songs, which there are quite a few even on the last two albums, they always went out with the latest self-pardody Trash sequel.