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'yeh but the police had a really good drummer!'
Anyway, I don't think you should ever overlook great musicianship in a band. Ian Brown may have zero ability to do any Stone Roses song (barring Fools Gold) justice vocally, but that doesn't stop the band being fantastic musicians.
there are some great Police songs and I'm not a fan at all.
Completely aside from the Stone Roses' musical ability, they did write some great songs too and I think that's what carried them through.
As for "annoying excuses for crap bands" my 3 are:
1. "Yeah but they work really hard"
2. "They're really nice guys though"
3. "They write all their own songs"
I just mean it's not a 'excuse' to say but so and so had a good drummer. It's a point that shouldn't be forgotten if you're having to dismiss a band for being rubbish.
I don't want a band to be succesful because they work hard. I want them to be succesful because they're amazing.
when I hear a Steely Dan song I say, "wow, that Donald Fagan is one talented musician" and other times I say, "boy, that Steely Dan is some boring shite."
I like Coldplay. As wildly unpopular as that is here, I say "fuck it", and I trust my own ears.
I dunno what my post has to do with yours Jamie, but I guess tomaytoe/tamato.
Fortunately, thank god, most DiSers have great taste - even if we don't always agree. The fools at my work think American Idol Jordin is Music when she's just singing some shit songs.
Although, I did chuckle a bit in the Cribs thread..."but they're fun!"
Yeh? Funny looking! :)
you say you sometimes think Steely Dan is boring shite.. but then you say you like Coldplay
DOES NOT COMPUTE
Is no excuse for leaden tossers like the Kaiser Chiefs.
NORE (Noriega) blamed a lacklustre album on his dad dying.
I wish I could drum like him
Me: "Red Hot Chilli Peppers are really bad"
Other person: "But they're great musicians and they've been through a lot"
Me: "But they're really bad"
Other person: see previous response
Me: see previous response
irrespective of the drummer's goodness.
I think your point can possible be applied to the Zutons:
The Zutons are shit!
Yeah, but they've got a bird on sax!
ruins an already awful fucking set of musicians.
I'm not quoting me...I can't stand the zutons, bird or no bird.
is a great guitarist.
it's 'a good song'.
I fucking hate this. Absolute bullshit. What people mean is that it's 'a good song for radio', or it adheres to some stupid fucking template, or it's 'catchy'. Like a disease.
People were actually singing for thousands of years BEFORE the invention of radio, amazingly.
It's like saying Christiano Ronaldo is a really talented footballer three years ago, when he was fucking amazing at beating people and doing skills, but with no end product. And that is a fair comment.
The musical equivalent of a book with lots of pages is a really long, boring song.
especially if the band in question arent the police.
"the twang are a terrible terrible band"
"yeah, but the police had a really good drummer"
As in, "You don't like Sugababes!? but it's Pop Music. What kind of cynical twisted misanthropic scrooge doesn't like Pop Music when it's clearly good enough for everyone else? You dick."
"...but millions of record sales can't be wrong!!!i1iI!i1iI!ONE"291!!!twoI!i1I!I!"