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of what you're calling brutal...
seem really brutal to me in the way I perceive them.
joy division, and a lot of the weirder stuff by the cure.
i put to you- god bless our dead marines by a silver mt zion.
lots of noise records are fairly brutal, but i wouldn't call them heavy.
That's an interesting philosophical query. I'm gonna sleep on that.
How about "wet"?
Strange - Galaxie 500
Land's End - Patrick Wolf
Shame - Smashing Pumpkins
off the top of my head, methinks would qualify as brutal but not necessarily heavy.
without ever going above a near-whisper, then it's really really somethin'. You knowww?
public image ltd also.
nick cave. and HTRK. in short - yes. brutality is in the intent and execution of a sound, not in the volume or how crunchy the chord is.
new york girls by the angels of light
are my prime example. Or anything with greg dulli. Some post rock goes there too.
Tiny Cities Made Of Ashes
by the mountain GOATS
That's totallyyy what I first thought of when I saw this thread.
'Breaker' is a good example recently of how they can sound completely unsettling but in a way you just cannot put your finger on.
They're kind of devastating. In the cleverest imaginable sense.