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I don't really know much about guitars at all but I play one in a band - basically I want to know how to make a bit more noise without sounding ridiculous, and the main thing I'm wondering is how they make that kind of whirring sound before going into a bit of a guitar explosion? The Foo Fighters do it a lot, but the best example I can think of is in Roseability by Idlewild about 2m20 in.
Is it as simple as having a seperate distortion pedal completely cranked up or is there actually a technique to doing it?
Or have I really not made this clear enough?
well i guess its a kind of feedback
but how do they do it. It sounds more like an electrical malfunction. Do you know the bit in the Idlewild song I'm talking about?
how do you get there in the first place though?
Up until the other day I had to get the bass player to turn my amp on for me - I'm useless.
Basically I can probably work out how to do it for myself, but I wondered if there was a particular pedal for doing stuff like this?
If not, I'll just get another distortion pedal and "experiment"!
maybe a bit of flange mixed in
flange lol
good idea
I like the large amount of flange in bands like L7 and The Donnas so I'll give it a go.
do you mean when they make it sound really distorted but small?
if so, seperate distortion pedal with the gain maxed and teh output low?
just click on a separate distortiion pedal
or use the amps distortion + a pedal or vice versa.
Or switch to bridge pickups or something.
Or get a wahwah pedal and put it all trebly.
Or get one of those pickup booster things.
You can just buy
a BOSS feedback pedal.
Tubescreamer
DOD juice box
MR micro amp
I remember boosting quite well.
you can make a sort of 'cheat' noisy feedback
by turning the distortion on your pedal up a decent amount, turn the volume knob right down on your guitar, play a harmonic - or a few at once, try above the fifth fret wire on the A and D strings - and then turn the volume knob quickly up to ten.
this involves little fingers and stuff
I'm shit at all that. I think I might just stick with Dinosaur Jr style white noise the whole time like I've been doing and jumping around a lot.
it comes really easy
if you practice it a few times.
Heres a simple technique:
If your tone is already pretty distorted and loud, just walk up to your amp and put the guitar right up to the speaker.
Instant feedback.
i do this sometimes
but 99% of the time, I'm singing as well.
Get Jon to do it for a few seconds
Goddamnit, you're owed at least a few bars of joyously noisy feedback per song, no? He'll understand.
Ahhhhh
Just hold the note down and move your guitar around till you get some feedback then.
Just get another distortion pedal
and put them next to each other and keep one set on e-leven so you can stamp on it and make the world explode when required. Also do lots of pick scrapes all the time. Can't go wrong with a good pick scrape.
my amp goes up to 12
one better than spinal tap - those pussies.
I think this is what I'm gonna do.
A fun feedback/noise generating technique
I'm not sure if this is what you're after, but it's quite nice nonetheless- Play an octave chord, something like
G-8-
D-x-
A-6
E---
and bend the 2nd note (the 8 in this case) up about half a step, with a good distortion this can sound snazzy. Bend the string more to increase the oscillation.
For feedback, I'd recommend putting a booster/overdrive in front of your main distortion, just to saturate it a bit more. Stomp on it, and indie kids cry.
Harmonics on the 3rd and 9th fret also feedback friends.
I love making noise, it's much more fun that acoustics or washboard guitars.
cheers
going on the same assumption
as everyone else....
One instant feedback solution is to have something like the MXR Double Shot distortion. Basically it's two distortion pedals in one.
Set the first bit of it to the regular distortion you'd use, get it sounding nice.
Set the second bit of it to everything maxed out. As soon as you change from one to the other, absolute screaming feedback mania.... I wouldn't recommend doing this is a quiet post-rock flavoured band by the way. It tends to lose you friends very quickly. ;)
I had to download Roseability to know what you were on about
It's just a whine of feed back caused by massive distortion.
I can get the same effect by turning on my boss compressor/sustainer in 'sustain' mode with a lot of tone turned up.
Essentially you're looking at the effect of a lot of high frequencies in your guitar sound combined with distortion.
You'll get the same effect if you whack the distortion knob up on your pedal really far, as noted but make sure your filter setting is turned off or almost off.
Distortion pedals tend to have a filter setting to get around this sort of problem because the high frequencies give such evil feedback.
You know you've got it right when it makes that noise whenever you're not playing the guitar.