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and what happened to the "s"?
and indeed, WTF is math rock?
its like post-rock= ie a catch all term that actually means nothing.
is it the same as post rock or not?
is this going to descend into a jungle vs drum and bass style argument?
what is post rock anyway?
will Tammy finally get to marry Kirk?
stay tuned ...
it would be before that article mentioned Shellac. They dont even fit the definition, typical of such journalistic categorisation.
with out doubt one of the stupidist things I've seen on Wikipedia!
Every other word seems to be a link another musical genre or band.
It just seems to reference evrything and every one from King Crimson to Frank Zappa and Henry Cow - daft!
There are connections to prog rock, I suppose.
I don't know
That's why I asked.
Is it prog rock by indie kids then?
Or some branch of post rock?
It's too hard to listen to a singular piece of music and go "that IS math-rock".
Example - Youthmovie Soundtrack Strategies. I would initially suggest that they're quite proggy, but they clearly have elements of post-rock and mathy time signatures.
Bottom line - it's hard to define.
i point them in the direction of the edmund fitzgerald and sweep the leg johnny.
where difficult time signatures have been used, although normally it is only math rock if there are different time signatures on different instruments, say the drumming and guitars are diong something out of time, but after a certain amount of time the two parts fit over each other and you realise better whats going on.
more often than not math rock tends to be proggy, because it relies on building parts over each other.
unfortunately i don't have enough math rock, but Hella and meshugah are two bands who are for the most part mathy.
of course there are far more ways to be mathy, so as Alex_b said, it is a sweeping generalisation of a genre.
sweeping generalisation...hence like post-rock. Bands in the two 'genres' often cross over- Youthmovies and 65daysofstatic spring to mind, as do Cats3 and, going further back, tortoise (supposedly), and even Mogwai,particularly Glasgow-Mega Snake- 3/4 drums and 4/4 guitars- hence journos crying 'MATH!' without thinking. Tis a stupid idea for a genre.
is from www.epitonic.com (Your Source for Cutting Edge Music, apparently)
Take the intricacy and complexity of classic weirdo hard rock bands like Rush and Voivod, then add some of punk's hyperspasmodic schizophrenia, and you'll have a legitimate math rock contender. Math rock bands take pleasure in being erratic and unpredictable, often experimenting with peculiar tempos and jazz-derived rhythms while keeping the rock hard and aggressive all the while. Their lyrics tend to be as cerebral and expertly designed as their songs. These bands are rock's architects of the future, recrafting and reinventing the genre's tired song structures."
and it makes you do a face like you're trying to long-divide in your head, it's probably math-rock.