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Hard Fi wearing Day-Glo. Especially new single. DiScuss.
pre album allstars with no life span
i was going to reply to your post with
bands having even less shelf-life than before.'
but i settled for a sigh.
dont think its purely a nets problem, more with bands being more dependent on "scenes" and hype.
that's what i thought when i first heard it. disappointing.
saw them at the weekend and thought "good live though"
or have you not figured out how to use the boards properly yet?
whether it sounds like Hard-Fi or not.
But there's been plenty of bands doing this kind of thing, since 2004, but better. They're being over hyped, only to be inevitably dropped like a stone when "nu rave" or whatever the NME are calling it, goes belly up.
(the new single is alreet tho).
Atlantis To Interzone and Magick are good indie pop songs, but let's face it, Pop Will Eat Itself were doing this kinda thing so much better years ago.
And yeah, the new single is a bit of a let down.
About this time last year the band that I really wanted to see/hear because of the hype was Forward Russia, and they turned out to be shit.
I'm worried that Klaxons will prove to be the same.
with the early singles being ridiculously good. Golden Skans is decent, but the weakest released so far. Calling them Hard-Fi is pretty damn harsh though.
it's quite bland and not as good as the older singles.
if he cockneyed up his accent a bit more, he would be richard archer.
Hard-Fi = a bunch of chavs playing bad pop rock for chavs
Klaxons = A bunch of music geeks playing intelligent pop for music geeks
I saw them live. twice in one night. neither they or their music seemed particularly intelligent.
Back in March, once in summer and the last NME tour. Each time I have felt fulfilled after leaving, maybe I am biased as I enjoy them so much but I think their live show is pretty damn good. The Bouncer as an opener is bludey cracking.
particularly intelligent for seeing them twice in one night seeing as though you don't like them
I saw them at The Great Escape Festival.
Went to see them FOR THE FIRST TIME as I'd heard lots about them.
Then they ended up playing again the same night at the NME party..I didn't know the line up prior to getting in.
Abusing people personally for their opinion on a band is fucking sad.
but I know for a fact that every person outside the Pressure Point that night knew who was playing the NME party and I agree that The Macabees are worth waitng all that time for but you don't need to moan about seeing Klaxons twice in one night. My comment was not meant to be harsh and i'm sorry you took it that way
of the statement he had made. It was not meant to be nice or nasty
...what's more, there is no irony if
1) I had never seen them before
2) I didn't know they were playing at the NME party. which I honestly didn't. And even if I had know...I wnated to see The Maccabees so would've had to endure them anyway as it was so busy I couldn't leave and come back.
available to me after I had made the comment so is fairly irrelevant. I made my post based on what you had said originally which was "I saw them live. twice in one night. neither they or their music seemed particularly intelligent."
and I bloody love them. Noisy and fun, putting them either side of the Maccabees was a bit weird because to my Klaxon loving ears the Maccabees were dull inbetween.
Tis true, they'll sink fast but I for one am enjoying them while they're here. One of my favourite gigs of this year is when they played Hoxton Square, it was amazing, so fulfilling.
golden skans is just.. not. it's not terrible, it just doesn't have that touch of 'danger' like the other two.
liked them live. maccabees are better on record i think. there's so many bands around at the moment - next year there is so many 2nd albums and debuts with lots of money being thrown at them, to many for all of them to last. not complaining though as music is great.
to 'great' status by people whose primary listening pleasure has been guitar bands. Uou want to say it's been done before, and better, but then you look like a bitter old git.
It HAS been done before and it HAS been done much better!
but you can say that about everything so whats your argument dom
drum machne doesn't mean it's dance music?
Something along those lines would be mine. I mena that in a metaphysical/phorical sense rather than a literal one.
the fact they've been hyped up as some groundbreaking, totally original new act by certain sections of the music media is what I'm getting at, although that isn't the band's fault.
But yeah, you're right, most things aren't entirely original but then again most things don't profess to be either so...?
The day-glo thing is an eyesore as well.
I hate them so much...
if it sounds like Hard-Fi or not. I listened to the Hard-Fi the other day, as it goes. Some of it was OK.
I love that new Klaxons single. A LOT.
we all had fake tans, take a look at golden glans
if you want to touch it you can hold it in your hands
the songs arent really rave, and they just sound like really lacklustre indie tunes with a drum machine.
when i hear them that they really should put a bit more effort into things and lose a bit of their singalong stuff then they'd be pretty good.
seems sad cos there IS potential there.
the drummer just doesn't appear in the video's or photo-shoots. Don't know why.
i cant remember, but my point is still that the songs arent really well crafted, the guitars sound really weak as do the vocals, the only thing that actually saves the klaxons is that they 'rave it up' live
I'm sure you were championing them about 3 months ago?
I can't remember sean ever saying anything.
They are a bit more lively and creative than Hard-Fi though. Even as a non-fan I can see that.
Even if they were to release a song with Cat Power singing, Elliott Smith composing and Mike Mogis producing, that happened to be the greatest thing of all time, ever, there would be some people who'd never like it because the NME have hyped it.
I think they're good fucking fun. They're not going to save the world or change it, but they are going to make me and many other smile.
...but plenty of people are still really into Bloc Party and many other bands despite NME hype. I don't like them at all, but it's not because of the whole NME "omg nu rave!1" thing.
I'd say it's a serious minority who think that way.
The major difference being that NME never proclaimed Bloc Party to be the leaders of a new wave of bands that would change the world like they have with Klaxons. It never felt like 'overkill'.
It just annoys/upsets me that because of the media exposure of certain bands, they are tainted and some people won't touch them.
See also: The View.
above mediocre is this nme nu-rave thing, without it theyd just be another average indie band who no one would be talking about
a good song is a good song and you can't deny that Klaxons have at LEAST three of those.
Well, I certainly can't deny it anyway.
Nobody decides not to like a band simply because of what the NME says.
all widely liked on DiS.
i wouldn't listen to them out of choice, but they're hardly 'shit', particulary in comparison to some bands that are genuinely awful.
The view would be "fun" if they werent like 50% of the other bands in the NME.
It sounds like what would happen if someone tried to to a parody of the arctic monkeys.
Its the same fukcing thing, they're aiming for the same kind of response, they're being feted by the nme in a slightly less rabid maner and probably won't be as successful...
the view are another band I can't argue rationally on because i dislike them to the deepest, most primordial level...
not "shit" maybe, ust "incredibly dull and uninteresting" which in my mind is synonymous with shit.
the view really are crap
I LOVE KLAXONS.
and not very good. They're Enter Shikari with the sub-Hawthorne Heights emo replaced with sub-Hard Fi indie.
I asked them that VERY thing.
It goes live first week of January innit.
it's a podcast. you can't see a podcast. you've just made me cry.
probably been asked that by every webzine ever.
good hypocritical times
"Don't you hate it when someone can remain quiet and respectful of someone elses opinion but instead decides it's THEIR PLACE to eat away at the excitement of someone else."
he's opened it up for debate, pretty much the opposite of remaining quiet.
about Klaxons, apart from Atlantis to Interzone which i don't like and think is boring. Also, they annoy me for no particular reason.
Sterling stuff :)
I don't mind them, a few of their songs are quite fun and I would enjoy them in the club enviroment.
Of course there isn't any substance behind the songs, but then again the band don't pretend there is any, they just seem to be enjoying themselves.
that most people hear all the hype before they actually hear the music- which when they eventually hear they are let down because its pretty average and has no depth, emotionally or otherwise.
I often get turned straight off if a band has an obviously major-label advertising campaign, e.g. Kooks - you just KNEW they were going to be rubbish - but when bands like Klaxons rise up from the underground, I always listen with interest. Sometimes good bands come about this way, and sometimes nonentities do. But people listen then decide. Right?
but when they do hear, they often dont live up to the hype, which kind of emphasises how dissapointed they were, making them not want to listen.
It was like that with me anyway. I heard them and they were so "meh" compared to what I thought they would be so I didnt bother to listen.
I would probably like them more if NME put them on the cover, not with the headline "klaxons: new rave is amazing and so are they and so were the 90s and oh god please buy our magazine", but with "klaxons: 2007s most 7/10 band. Listen to them, theyre really quite ok"
how much i like something pretty much lies in the music itself rather than anything else.
except perhaps the addition of cowbells, hand claps and female bassists.
if it was an indie label advertising campaign?
I see what you're saying though. Don't forget that The Kooks were floundering without success for ages before Jo Whiley decided she liked them and started going on about it.
Money doesn't solve everything, it just enchances it when something does kick off.
but they won't last, in 2007 we'll have Enter Shikari and a bunch of hardcore-dance bands will appear on NME... scary! I mean all this new rave is nothing new, US bloggers are laughing at us saying that all this new rave wouldn't exist without the rapture and DFA stuff.
they're no better/worse than enter shikari
Sean, if you want that job with the NME, you don't need to be saying the above for another six months yet!
they are like hard-fi
nobody will care about them by june. they will get a bigish following though
and the remixes are fab.
the digitalism remix of atlantis to interzone is absurdly good.