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Can we lock Roberts somewhere and introduce him to Tom Waits music?
insult him on the radio?
the thing about tom waits is that eventually every music-loving person that laughs at his voice or insults him eventually falls completely in love and regrets being such a fool.
but there's no music to back it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on every single album he's either monumentally fantastic or he's playing with one of the best ensembles ever heard on record...taylor and ribot are INCREDIBLE.
but he's alright.
but tom waits never made clarence clemmons stand about in a video playing SOME FUCKING MARACAS.
i do really want to listen to one of them now. I'm not much bothered which. whichever cd i find first...
it's the gist
is a decent poet with a distinctive singing voice, not my favourite musician but better than either bob dylan or leonard cohen. that's all i'll say.
love for an artist and say it's personal taste, but I really don't understand how someone could think that. Unless they'd only heard Real Gone once or something. The music is the main part. He can do sobbing Piano ballads, beatboxing blues stompy things, merry go round, musaky monologues about blind chiuauha's with skin diseases etc etc etc and is quite possibly the ONLY person of his "generation" to still be making great music bar Springsteen on occasion.
there would be some merit in the view that the music was not as interesting as the persona (similar to someone like Bob Dylan). Swordfishtrombones onwards conclusively proves that view wrong.
I can't take any criticism of Tom Waits :) The earlier years were where he produced some of his greatest music, despite the overly cool jazz-bum-beat-poet persona which for some reason people seems to really bother some people. Tom's Traubert Blues. Blue Valentines. Heart Of Saturday Night. Etc etc etc.
I actually think he's a vastly underrated person and songwriter, purely cos of his voice. He's pretty rarely mentioned in the same breath as Dylan, Springsteen, Neil Young, Lou Reed, who've pretty much all gone shit in their old age.
i think he *is* always mentioned in the same breath as those people. and had a really broad appeal to people who are at all interested in that kind of music.
If anything I'd say Springsteen was more underrated because of the associations with Reagan. And people disliking him on the basis of the Chorus of Born in the USA...
tom waits the saviour of rock and roll, or the boss, AFTER he'd produced an album that sounded like tunnel of love though? am i right? springsteen is the most overrated of all, and yet sadly his true genius is underrated. people love him for crap eighties SHITE whereas they should love him for the wonderful poetic brilliance of the early stuff and bits every now and then since.
springsteen probably isn't underrated either.
But I've always found Tom Waits to be the kind of artist that provokes strong reactions in people. The sort of thing music lovers seek out, that polarises opinion between those who love him, and those who have no desire ever to listen to him...
"springsteen is the most overrated of all, and yet sadly his true genius is underrated."
Nary has truer a sentence been posted on the DiS boards. Although I must confess a terrible weakness for some of his '80s stuff :-/
dancing in the dark now.
should i feel unclean?
you should be forced to do the courtney cox dance naked at the next gig you attend
'cox' that sounds a bit like...
"Dancing in the Dark". Oh dear.
Watching old Tom Waits videos on youtube. Just type in Tom Waits, there are streams of pages of great stuff...
watching the bootleg of Tom Waits live at the Apollo. Lordy Lord. I actually regret not stumping up £60 for that gig. The version of Alice is incredible.
it was worth £60 and most of them dont believe me!
never never never mentioning this again, cos it makes me cry. Thanks
the best singer/songwriter of all time. I'm willing to stand by this.
unlike bob dylan, and unlike cohen, he didn't go through a phase where everything he wrote was badly produced and crappy.
for crabbers to say that tom waits has no music to back him up clearly shows he's not listened to ANY of his records since the swordfish trilogy onwards.
'ah, his voice seems to be incapable of anything except a deep, dark, elemental roar, therefore no tunes, therefore no music, therefore I RULE' kind of thing.
which would be wrong.
wasnt he just saying that the music was really boring?
Which isnt the same as saying it isnt musical.
its SO untrue.
where he went all d&b or something. it was quite recent.
he didnt do one. Real Gone had a bit of scratching on it but other than that its fucked up heavy blues stuff, probably his most traditional sounding record for ages but still wonderful
rocks my world
he's ok, i guess ;)
Tom Waits, but haven't been introduced...this thread is exciting me. Can anyone reccomend some stuff to d/l? Not the classic "GET THESE THREE ALBUMS"...I'm already overwhelmed by the back catalogue; recomendations of classic tracks?
it's the only song you'll ever need, ever
The Heart Of Saturday Night, was produced by Bones Howe, uncanny
Hello from Chicago :p
Hang On St. Christopher
Watch Her Disappear
Goin' Out West
Tango Til They're Sore
What's He Building In There?
All The World Is Green
The Piano's Been Drinking (Not Me)
Drop of Poison
The one suggested by since-last-summer is, in fact, the best song ever.
released more than 30 years into his recording career
who says inspiration lessens as you get older
Virginia Avenue / The Heart Of Saturday night - early pre oscar the grouch 73/74
Eggs and Sausage / Burma Shave / Christmas Card From A Hooker In Minneapolis / The Piano Has Been Drinking - classic vocal/piano stuff from 74-78
Step Right Up / The One That Got Away / Potter's Field - Skiffle / Jazz / Cinematic stuff from mid 70s
All of it is good though. Just go on www.youtube.com !
his beautiful covers
'Downtown train'-rain dogs
is his own song you foolio!
springsteen just covered it.
the boss covered jersey girl
but still semi-right.
there has NEVER been a good tom waits cover. true fact.
by tim buckley and red shoes by the wedding present.
10,000 manics ok too, but a bit twee
the eagles runied it, as did rod stewart.
I'm sure Springsteen did Downtown Train as well.
originally by rod stewart. thus making it a cover by mr Maits
But I'm sure both Rod Stewart AND Bruce Springsteen covered it.
"Downbound Train". But that's not a cover.
but this has come up on DIS before. It was definitely by waits
inspectetion i now see you are correct. i was wrongly informed. oh well (sinks head in shame)
invitation to the blues
tango till they're sore
take it with you
bad liver and a broken heart
a best of in my head, but it's pretty much all his songs - apart from saving all my love on heartattack and vine.
i would add :
Train Song either off franks wild years or big time (actually the big time version is aces)
A little rain
dirt in the ground
blow wind blow
san diego seranade
good lyrics, ok music.
point of view from someone with otherwise really good taste!
He has an amazing, amazing voice, BUT i can understand why people don't like it.
Click my linky to youtube up above, give it an open mind for 3 minutes.
It's a voice couched in vulnerability which somehow fills the entire roon.
Just because it ain't pretty... it's cracked, wizened, rough... full of character and wisdom.
I just think "Christ I can't stand this voice"
album i got was asylum years, all very nice ballads and cool 50's esque compositions until you get to "somewhere" then this fucking voice just comes out of nowhere and becomes another instrument, changing the song completely. That was when i knew he was the one for me.
as forced upon Jasmine's Creative Zen when she wasn't looking.
Diamonds on my Windscreen
Goin Out West
Big In Japan
Coney Island Baby
I'm Still Here
Dirt In The Ground
Table Top Joe
Frank's Wild Years
Hoist That Rag
Better Off Without a Wife (with intro)
In The Neighbourhood
How did that Lou Reed song get in there?
I disagree with the lack of Singapore and Earth Died Screaming.