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I got the 'Songs From a Room' LP on ebay for 2 quid.
Anyone else a fan?
along with Van and Bob.
He's pretty good.
I like Bob but Van can fuck off.
songs from a room was the first record i bought (as opposed to CD)
I prefer the songs of.. and songs of love and hate.
you got a favorite song? I'm really into diamonds in the mine from songs of love and hate.
anyone know what his newer stuffs like? or his book(s?)
for a pound in a charity shop a few months ago... its cracking.. suzanne is my favourite..
i want to read some of his poems.
the first page was kind of annoying so heres something jag-esque...
I first heard diamonds in the mine when my friend played it at an open mic night. he's rather good. check out his stuff and let me know what you think.
Since about two weeks ago. I now have three of his albums. He's AMAZING.
in the ''oh so bad for my savings plan'' HMV sale - but I haven't yet listened to it, due to Belle and Sebastian / Regina Spektor aural demands.
so yeah, you could say i'm a fan.
I like the thought of you entering a Leonard Cohen themed tombola.
to win 7 Leonard Cohen albums.
He's one of those people I always want to buy more stuff by but never get round to it.
i might dig some out
it's so awesome and menacing and dark in an 80s-synth-pop-and-cheesy-backing-singers way.
and recently gave it back to him (six months later admittedly).
I feel like there's a big hole in my life that may never be fixed. Although it probably will be once I get round to making it to a record shop and buying it for myself.
i have regular debates with my mates, who are avid dylan fans, over their respective merits (dylan and leonard that is, not my mates - they have no merits whatsoever).
general conclusion is that dylan's got the tunes, but leonard's got the words.
i first got into him when i heard "Hallelujah" on Grace, and thought it was amazing. bit disappointed when i finally heard the original, but by that time i was fully sold on Leonard as a genius.
"memories" is one of my favourites -
"Frankie Laine was singing Jezebel,
i pinned an iron cross to my lapel,
i walked up to the tallest and the blondest girl,
i said, 'listen,you don't know me now, but pretty soon you will,
so won't you let me see,
i said won't you let me see...
your naked body?' "
I only have the first album, but it's excellent. Good winter music.
but the obv. songs - and whilst we're on Van and Bob, I suppose the same could be said about them, ie Astral Weeks/TB Sheets and Freewheelin'/61 Revisited
Have I added anything to this debate?
Have you listened to Astral Weeks now? I was supposed to do you a copy about 10 years ago, wasn't I?
It's my fave album (as I've told Bamos about a million times).
obviously you can't really ignore dylan's influence, but his lyrics? are they really all that good? they don't really connect with me for the most part (there are exceptions, eg simple twist of fate).
is it all about context - because so much since has been influenced by his style does that mean his own material has less impact?
like darcy says, for me, leonard kicks dylan's arse.
i don't mean that in a patronising way, just to say dylan's lyrics aren't good means you haven't listened to the stuff that means yr wrong. like last thoughts on woody guthrie. or spanish harlem incident. or seven curses. or yr a big girl now.
although cohen is a legend, and one of my all time favourites, dylan's still better. dylan's lyrics are so simple and complex at the same time.
is astonishingly good. I spend pretty much a whole day once listening to that on repeat.
The one thing you have to say for Dylan is that he got in there first and, were it not for him, the likes of Cohen and many other acoustic singer-songwriters might well not have been doing what they did, or certainly got the same profile through doing it (although in the case of most acoustic singer-songwriters, would that be such a bad thing?)
But there's no doubt in my mind that Cohen is the better songwriter.
so wrong. cohen at his very very very best is on a par with some of dylan's stuff. but if you listen to the right dylan stuff it becomes clear that he is indesputably a genius. i'm listening to seven curses RIGHT NOW and it's confirming my opinion.
it's like religion, if dylan's converted you, it's hard to tolerate the non-believer. i've heard a lot of dylan, and it's obviously great, but as a rule i can't connect with his lyrics that well. but then, i am a heathen...
i'll listen to last thoughts on woody guthrie though, cheers since-last-summer
his voice makes me pray for deafness though
either that or i just laugh at it
why did he ever bother singing? AAAAARRGH
One of the best lyricists of all time IMO.
Kicks Dylans ass. His economy with words to express his sentiments is incredible.