Oasis
Don't Believe The Truth

Harsh, but fair...

What a shockingly obvious review.

Not half as obvious as your comment. And at least the review sounds about right.

Well at least they managed to spell 'idle' right. Credit where credits due.

What about the "bonus track" 'I Can See It Now'?
Thats possibly the best thing I've heard by Oasis for about 8 years! Spacemen 3 meets Brian Wilson with Noel's vocal put through Stephen Hawking's voicebox.

Maybe Liam can teach you how to use apostrophes properly, eh?

Could you sort that out for me? I'd love that, I really would.

Can you spell 'owned'? Cos I can.

Alan McGee summed it up well when he said Oasis have been brave enough to grow up on record.

For me, Morning Glory was a record for lads made by lads, and Don't Believe The Truth is a record for dads made by dads. Sounds a bit wanky, but a fair assessment, I think.

Yeah, thats a fair point. Not that I'm a dad or a lad!

I'd like to see Liam spell 'apostrophes' first.

I'd like to see less patronising gits on DiS messageboards meself but we can't always get what we want. So I'll have to make do with calling you a tossing tosser of tosspot proportions.

Also, to be entirely honest, from a band as completely anti-intelligence as Oasis, a band whose lead songwriter one claimed he never read books, I think jibes about spelling are more than justified.

But, obviously, I'm not a blinkered Oasis fan who responds to every criticism of said band with insults, so what do I know?

I already proved I can, you div.

Irrelevant.

Well, apart from the fact that I don't particularly feel the need to justify myself to you..

There's a difference between not reading and being PROUD that you don't read - it just strikes me as being a ridiculous secondary school attitude to take.

Does anyone apart from "The_Glory" actually care about Oasis? I mean, really?

Possibly not.

I think the 75,000 people that sent Lyla to #1 last week do. And the 200,000+ people attending their summer gigs do. And the people who helped them sell out Madison Square Garden in a day do. Other than that, it might just be me, yeah.

'just tired and lame'

I think you've come up with a great title for the next Oasis album. Give The_Glory a shout, and he'll make sure it gets to Noel somehow!

Failed with 'Abel' though.

Yeah man, Real Music Fans only listen to music that's made on GUITARS. Guitars are, like, so totally bomb.

It isn't the journalist's job to either a) 'bash' something based solely on the fact that it might be the exoected thing to do and neither is it b) to go with the flow from other reviewers. This review is simply an opinion - it's there to be either agreed with or disagreed with.

I've not heard the record, but to bee honest I trust Gareth's opinion over that of some glossy mag writer who needs to award said record a minimum of 3/5 to ensure advertising revenue from the band's label. Why the fuck do you think a magazine like Clash, or even Q, harldy ever dishes out a bad review? For the magazines in the newsagents reviewing is part of a bigger business; here it is simple opinion, unpaid for and benefitting nobody but those looking for a spread of assessments.

Thus, I conclude that this record IS probably shite.

Remind me: how many people bought the Crazy Frog single this week?

I'd love Oasis to make another great record, but I've been waiting 10 years.

Did they?
I assumed that everything still got at least three out of five.
It did when I used to read it, a few years back.

Jesus, with the utter shitness of Oasis' nineties albums, you'd have thought the only way they could possibly go would be up!..........

what a stupidly unfair review. obviously they've taken the hip approach and slagged Oasis off as much as possible. i've heard the album n although i dont like it too much, it deserves a lot more credit than this shite review gives it.
'mediocre' dobson says. this is after he gives the subways 'classic' oh yeah, 3 stars. why am i not surprised?

ah yes. close minded... because i think the subways are boring...

Wow, how does an album as dull and predictable as this get so much attention and discussion? Oasis have been shoveling the same tripe for years.

Everyone knew it would be shit.

It was shit.

End.

Q have also recently trashed albums from bands such as the Manics, REM, New Order and Garbage

yeh i heard a couple songs while trying to decide which family guy series to buy from HMV, they all sounded dull. they then switched to a Coral album (but not the first) and it took us two songs to realise the CD has changed. it is grim up north, maybe they should get jobs...

This album is still a giant leap forwards by their standards. Very few Beatles references in sight, and letting Andy Bell loose on a couple of the songs has enhanced their sound. Honest.

If anybody wants to read a proper review of the album then click the links below, they make Gareth Dobson's review look rather embarressing and lazy.

Also I think everybody should actually 'LISTEN' to the album before commenting, as it is actually really good.


The Guardian/ Observer Newspaper:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/reviews/story/0,13875,1465863,00.html


MSN Music:

http://music.msn.com/album/default.aspx?album=41655676&stab=2

Pulse Website:

http://www.insidepulse.com/articles/37866


In fact looking for reviews on google resulted in one bad review. I found this review drownedinsound - Strange that.

Let There Be Love = 'Innocent Child' by Mark Owen.

"Hey, that tune you've come up with is great Noel, really reminds me of something..."

"Err, lads, isn't it just a blatant nick of the tune of 'Street Fighting Man'? Don't you think people MIGHT notice that one?"

"Let's give it a go anyway...HEEEEYYYY LYLA"

*Oasis head to Number One as public is fooled again*

All this talk of 'going back to Definitely Maybe' is bollocks. The reason bands like Radiohead and Blur are some of my favourites is their progression and the fact that each album ISN'T like the next one.

Oasis have been doing Definitely Maybe their whole career and those of us railing against them are people who only need ONE album like that. They need to do something different, but regrettably that's entirely beyond the band, I think.

Look children, let's all disagree to agree that Oasis are shite and move on. There are more important issues at hand such as when is Dr Karl going to die in Neighbours and whether or not to have mayo in my chicken sandwich today.

So your review would read:

"Well, I don't like it, but I'm sure someone will... four stars!"

??

What utter nonsense.

..... errrr, no.

I don't listen to jimmy hendrix for example, but I can appreciate he is amazing for his genre.

Do you see guntrip, yes? good, well done.

Why is it, people say, 'Oasis are shit why can't you tell'?

With all other indie/rock or whatever, its a case of 'I don't like it, but its ok that you do.'

Simple really. Oasis just aren't "in" these days.

Man I wish they'd just quit and make room for more geniuses like Bright Eyes!!!

I mistyped a word above. I'm normally a perfectionist. I got so angry after hearing this record to think that lots of people would be buying it. That's my excuse.

sorry, they don't count. you're a dick.

What credibility do you need to review a record other than a love of music? Spin, Q, Rolling Stone... fuck, why not just list 'The Lady' and Stillwater Trout Angler? Who gives a shit how many fucking records they have sold or how many concerts they have given? All of that is rendered null and void now a fucking comedy frog can outsell them. Simply, this album is pissweak compared to Definitely Maybe and they've been sliding downhill ever since that first fantastic record. That's not some fashionable bitch at them, it's just how this honest fan who still plays Definitely Maybe on a regular basis feels, the same way I haven't bought the last three Manics albums. Why? Because they suuuuuuuuuuck.

Still not many bands living on "past glories" who are capable of selling out football stadiums though mate.

My take on oasis is that they released too quickly post Morning Glory. If they'd waited until 98/9 to release the follow up (taking a radiohead post OK Comp size break) the hype would have been tempered slightly

and could have resulted in an album with the best 7-8 Be Here now tunes and a couple from standing on the...
plus stay young, which is one of the best singles never released

Well, it fell to me to review the album for CD Times today. 'Enjoy':

http://cdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=1871

Theo

fuck all to say

What do Oasis have to say that's so important?

It would be nice to hear a review that didn't stink of prentious indie-snobbery, and actually focused on the merits of the songs, instead of how cool it is for indie tools to slag off oasis.

I have to agree with sarahlovesblues about the review, it's fucking piss-poor.

D.B.T.T. is better than 'Us' by Mull Historical Society, there's a mediocre album if I ever did hear one.

It's possible to love a band and hate it as well. I hate the Manics now after being a total devotee, right down to the daft clothing and make-up. Everything Must Go ended a chapter and the chapter thta came afterwards was dull and uninspired. With Oasis, half of Be Here Now was fine, the Masterplan was great and then it all went down the bowl. I'll defend the first album against anyone, the second against most people but after that it becomes harder and harder with each release. All I see from people who like this record are words like 'nice', 'solid'... why not stick dependable in there? I speak as someone who saw them years ago, who told people everywhere that this tape of them was fucking great, that Definitely Maybe would sell and sell not because of basic hype and marketing but simply because it had fucking top tunes. There's never been any indie snobbery in me, all of my opinions are based on the music and their music now doesn't fire me in any way. It's a shame to be disinteretsed in a band that I used to love and will love in some way. That love shouldn't ever be blind though to the fact that they are releasing some awful records now.

Subrah is a racist cunt.

You insult my culture. Call it cultureist if you will, but I dislike the way some muslims treat women - like dogs...

... hold on... this is someone taking the piss... silly me!

Not when they're so well-spelt and punctuated.